The guy that coached at millsaps? Not insulting just wonderingQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
The guy that coached at millsaps? Not insulting just wonderingQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Can't survive giving up 500+ yards every game. The secondary has been atrocious this year. People need to go and fresh new ones need to come in. Somebody needs to teach Mullen clock management skills too. He himself needs to get much better this offseason. He lost to Saban and Freeze. He was brutal in both games with the clock. Inexcusably bad. That can't ever happen again. Move the damn ball and stop taking up the whole clock to do it.
Yes. He was with Hud but just left for "personal reasons". But he has coached DB's and he knows the state of Mississippi very well. He has coached with Orgeron as well. Very good recruiter.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
That would make a lot of sense. The ogre would be amazing. for real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I think he would add a lot more energy/juice whatever you want to call it compared to Turner. And he's obviously a very good recruiter with big time ties to NOLA, where I think we should recruit a lot more. Not to mention California and Texas. Maybe that's what Dan is going for.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
I've met Coach O and his family a couple of times. They're very nice people. He is a total meat head though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Hold up David Turner is leaving? Thought it was deshea townsend? I want to keep both but if i had to pick id keep Turner. Townsend is young and someone will get him in a heartbeat. The ogre would be perfect at this time though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I would trade Collins for coach O right now
I would too honestly.... I would hope they make Collins LB coach since he already is anyway and let Ogre be DC... If it is David Turner that is leaving i think the Ogre has been a DL coach before. I dont think collins would go for just LB coach though, somebody else would offer him the DC job i bet. If that happens we can find an LB coach. Like Todd said David Saunders could coach it, or who ever we could get that is worth getting.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
These are rumors and the first I've heard about them. The OP said two coaching changes on the defensive side are imminent. It could be that if the rumors are true that it's Deshea and Turner that are leaving. It sounds like Deshea wants to go to the NFL and Dan wants Coach O. Coach O has coached D-line and LB's as far as I know. That means that the only options are Turner and Geoff. Collins has one more year on his contract, so more than likely it's Turner that has his head on the chopping block. Again, this is just rumor and speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
Who takes over DBs? Fred Smoot?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Maybe it will look something like this:
Dan- HC/OC/Special teams
Brian Johnson- QB
Knox- RB
Gonzalez- WR
Sallach- TE
Hevesey- O-line
Coach O- Co-DC/DL
Geoff- Co-DC/LB
Hughes- Recruiting/maybe something like OLB or S
Saunders- DB's.
The biggest thing I'd like to see is us move Sallach and hire James Shibest as the TE/ST coach. That would be a HUGE upgrade in terms of coaching and recruiting. If that hire is made, the only weak recruiter would be Hevesey. We can just give him the Golden Triangle as his recruiting area- he's not bad enough to run off kids from Starkville or West Point. Let the pros handle everything else.
That would be awesome, but I doubt he does it. We would own JPS in recruiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I'm thinking it would be Saunders or someone like that.
Coach O would be fantastic. I'll bet we would see a vast improvement in recruiting. Also wouldn't mind getting Manny Diaz back if possible. We don't need any more lackluster performances on defense like we saw in the Ole Miss game.
Considering that he is at La Tech, he would probably be happy to come back. I'm not sure how he and Dan would get along.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
Pretty sure Smoot would kill for it. What about Tebow? Does he really want to be a SECN guy his whole life. I think Dan could get Tebow if he really went after him hard. Gotta admit it'd be pretty sweet to have Tebow on the sidelines. Let Tebow be the OC. Not joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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I would take my chances on that if we could get O.
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Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
Unbelievable, we aren't even finished with a historic season and we're talking about firing coaches? You've got to be kidding me. Nobody is happy about the last game, but come on, we the bears have been tough at home this year. If you aren't happy with the overall body of work of this staff, you'll never be happy. Seasons like this in the state of Mississippi do not happen often. These attitudes can't help with recruiting either.
Did someone leave the trash out? We have a bear amongst us.Quote:
Originally Posted by RogueBooster4you
Not after Sunday before last.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I love rumors..... The speculations give me a good laugh
Reading all the speculation and for the second year people are pushing for the "home run" Eddie O hire and several a making a case for DC. What has that man done in 30 years of coaching to lead anyone to believe he is a defensive coordinator? Amazing recruiter, yes he is (albeit also shady at times) and mainly a DL coach. But it would be an enormous mistake to bring him in as the DC. Bring him in to recruit, that's fine and what he is good at but I don't think he has ever schemed or game planned at any level. But I do remember his game calls as a head coach at Ole Miss. I want no part of those type of abortions. USC he did great and was also an outlier with a talented team. He also had coordinators handle those duties as well. He should have a place to do what he is great at and would be a tremendous asset in that sense. But it's not as a defensive coordinator.
Y'all are nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
So, we had our best year ever and we want to can a few coaches? Brilliant
No doubt. Some of y'all need to step back from the ledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
I HATE losing to TSUN as much as anyone, but I will never be unhappy going 10-2 in Starkville.
If we'd lost to LSU instead of TSUN you guys would all be talking about building statues.
Calm down - we're fine.
IDIOTS in this thread. I personally hope we do not lose a single coach. 10-2 people.....10-2. Are their areas we can improve? Sure. There are every year for every team in the country.
10-2.....................
See ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by RogueBooster4you
I don't think firing coaches is a solution to the areas of concern. I think there needs to be a change in philosophy/scheme to be more dynamic and efficient on both sides of the ball.
Our secondary was horrible this year. A change has to be made there. Our field position game (special teams) was horrible this year. A change has to be made there. Our clock management skills were horrible this year. A change has to be made there. 3 areas that need improvement.
Ummm, you do know who manages the clock? I don't think anyone wants a change there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Change doesn't necessarily mean letting someone go. Our clock management was the worst I've ever seen. Got to be fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Im not calling for anyones head yet, but Orgeron would be a great hire to coach DL if it is Turner that is leaving. Also if we are gonna keep Collins, we have to change our philosophy. It it beyond my possibility of understanding why we are called the psycho defense if we play a bend but dont break scheme. Its stupid. Has to change. And i dont just mean the name, i mean the whole damn scheme. Mullen ran Wilson off, wouldnt shock me to see him do the same to Collins. I dont think he will though
I know we are all just having fun with this Coach 0 shit, but he isn't coming back to coaching unless it is a DC job at a power 5 school - most likely a top 25 school - or a Head Coach at a solid mid tier school.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
He turned down a ton of money at USC to coach Defense for Sark, I don't see him coaching the DL for us at 400K.
Just FYI, I think this guy is a State fan.....or at least there is a poster on Gene's page with the same U/N. I am thinking that he meant to say, "we know the bears have been tough at home this year." Or just, "the bears have been tough at home this year."Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
[QUOTE=HancockCountyDog;299901]I know we are all just having fun with this Coach 0 shit, but he isn't coming back to coaching unless it is a DC job at a power 5 school - most likely a top 25 school - or a Head Coach at a solid mid tier school.
He turned down a ton of money at USC to coach Defense for Sark, I don't see him coaching the DL for us at 400K.[/QI
It does make sense to hire him, hes been on campus this year, itd be a shot back in the SEC. I do think your right though. I just hope we do make the move if we can
Our secondary wasn't horrible. Our safeties were horrible, and it's more a talent problem than a coaching problem. Market and Hughes are solid and have SEC heads but lack SEC athleticism, and we probably won't get Market back at full capacity and Hughes back at all anyway. Coman and Evans are still young and may improve, but they just don't look like SEC talents. What we need to be hoping for is that Bryant and Peters are ready to play next year, and the most crucial coaching move is making the decision to play them over senior but inferior players. Unfortunately recent history says we shouldn't get our hopes up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
THIS x100000Quote:
Originally Posted by thf24
We had one clear talent issue on this defense, and it was at safety. We really need Peters and Bryant in the secondary. Though I keep hearing that Peters will eventually grow into a LB. Think a bigger Matthew Wells with the same type speed.
Bear Wilson and Chris jones played a ton as freshmen. I think Peters and Bryant will fit that mold. After the egg, I'm sure mullen is ready to turn em looseQuote:
Originally Posted by thf24
I have no confidence Mullen will adjust anything after that performance