A&M is a "Tough Match-Up" for us? Or for them?

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09-25-2014, 01:26 PM
defiantdog

I think they're going to come out throwing against our defense. Short passes.... no developing plays. A&M's offense is real similar to Oregon's.... it's really hard to stop that. IF we RTGDF and control the clock, we'll keep their offense off the field to give us more opportunities for this game. I really don't see them trying to run the ball at all.
09-25-2014, 02:17 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

I think they're going to come out throwing against our defense. Short passes.... no developing plays. A&M's offense is real similar to Oregon's.... it's really hard to stop that. IF we RTGDF and control the clock, we'll keep their offense off the field to give us more opportunities for this game. I really don't see them trying to run the ball at all.

I can see the RTGDF game plan working well against A&M. Keep their offense on the sideline watching ours go for 6 minute grinding drives. I doubt A&M's defense could really stop JRob.
09-25-2014, 02:50 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I'll tell you what you don't do against A&M, play a 3 man front. Chris Wilson tried a 3 man front and we got lit up. Amazingly SC played a 3 man front in game 1 and got blown off the map at home. We need to stick with our 4 man front and rotate guys through to keep them fresh. It will be up to the front 4 to control the LOS. This will allow us to drop 7 in coverage and bring some different blitzes at the right time.

Playing a 3 man front against them was great when JFF was there, provided you had DL and OLB athletes like LSU and Bama had.

I don't see why you'd try that with the way hill plays though. I don't like the way we match up with them at all but one thing that should help us is Wells and Brown are fast enough to do a good job in coverage.
09-25-2014, 02:53 PM
Political Hack

I'd let P Smith rip the double team up the A gap all night long. He can't be stopped. Hill will be running for his life.
09-25-2014, 02:53 PM
I seen it dawg

If we played them today we would whip their ass. They have not and will not (until maybe Bammer)see the physicality and the athleticism they are going to see next Saturday. LSU just got a whiff of it. Now we are really going to be pissed off and, as someone said a couple of days ago, because we are off we will be ready to kill somebody come next Saturday. This game is really bad news for A&M. Their plane ride home is gonna be real ****ing quiet.
09-25-2014, 02:54 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I honestly don't think so. I think we're that much better than them. If we play up to our capacity, neither of those teams can beat us in Starkville. It's going to be a pretty simple game plan, with the potential for some adjustments in terms of how much we blitz/keep Safeties over the top. That, to me, is the only major in game adjustment we could see. I do to see us going to a zone much... I don't see us throwing 8-9 in the box a lot... I don't see us coming with a lot of run blitzes... I don't see us blitzing off the edge more than a few times per half...

I think we're just going to line up, tackle in space, date them to take shots against Redmond and Calhoun, and let P Smith, Jones, BMac, and company wreak absolute havoc up front. Wouldn't be shocked to see Preston get his 3rd INT of the season in this one to be honest.

Personally, I'm more worried about big penalties hurting us than them consistently running up and down the field. Targeting, flask masks, etc... to extend drives would be a killer, and we will be a target by the SEC refs for the next few weeks. No way around it.

I agree with this for Auburn but not A&M. I think KSU showed that for all of the good things Malzahn does, it's still largely a matter of playing assignment football. KSU's job was made a lot easier by the fact that Auburn couldn't make them pay for the fist two or three quarters when they went man to man, but it's still a lot about discipline, which I guess Bill SNyder teams largely have.

A&M to me is a lot more difficult. I guess it doesn't have to be anything complex if you can simply go out there, keep their guy in front of you, and wrap up and make the tackle the first opportunity. But that's a lot easier said than done and I hope we have some wrinkles that make it difficult for Hill and takes some pressure off our coverage guys.
09-25-2014, 02:56 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

I think they're going to come out throwing against our defense. Short passes.... no developing plays. A&M's offense is real similar to Oregon's.... it's really hard to stop that. IF we RTGDF and control the clock, we'll keep their offense off the field to give us more opportunities for this game. I really don't see them trying to run the ball at all.

There's no trying...they WONT be able to run it.
09-25-2014, 03:01 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I agree with this for Auburn but not A&M. I think KSU showed that for all of the good things Malzahn does, it's still largely a matter of playing assignment football. KSU's job was made a lot easier by the fact that Auburn couldn't make them pay for the fist two or three quarters when they went man to man, but it's still a lot about discipline, which I guess Bill SNyder teams largely have.

A&M to me is a lot more difficult. I guess it doesn't have to be anything complex if you can simply go out there, keep their guy in front of you, and wrap up and make the tackle the first opportunity. But that's a lot easier said than done and I hope we have some wrinkles that make it difficult for Hill and takes some pressure off our coverage guys.

LSU's athletes > A&M's athletes (especially with Speedy out). We can tackle in space as well as any team I've watched this year.
09-25-2014, 03:05 PM
evan_aggie

You guys sound like SC fans before the opener. It makes victory even better. I'd still put A&M as a 4 pt favorite but will know more after Arkansas.
09-25-2014, 03:19 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by evan_aggie

You guys sound like SC fans before the opener. It makes victory even better. I'd still put A&M as a 4 pt favorite but will know more after Arkansas.

no one expected A&M to be this good. No one expected State to be this good.

I just think we've got much much more balance than y'all running and passing, as well as offense and defense. Our team is just much more well rounded. That said, you obviously can't sleep on Sumlin. The guys a freaking Wizard.
09-25-2014, 03:21 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by evan_aggie

You guys sound like SC fans before the opener. It makes victory even better. I'd still put A&M as a 4 pt favorite but will know more after Arkansas.

Maybe so but SC has shown they really are average. Us not so much. I'd take your 4 points throw them in the trash and moneyline it on us.
09-25-2014, 03:22 PM
defiantdog

We'll see how well A&M is against the run this Saturday against Arkansas.
09-25-2014, 03:22 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

LSU's athletes > A&M's athletes (especially with Speedy out). We can tackle in space as well as any team I've watched this year.

LSU's athletes may be better, but Sumlin is much better at getting his athletes the ball in open space.
09-25-2014, 03:27 PM
chainedup_Dawg

I would play similar to the Egg Bowl last year. Play up on the line and knock their receivers off their routes. 4 man front, wrap up-sure tackling.
09-25-2014, 03:28 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by evan_aggie

You guys sound like SC fans before the opener. It makes victory even better. I'd still put A&M as a 4 pt favorite but will know more after Arkansas.

It's going to come down to A&M's defense. USCe has been such a Jekyl and Hyde show this year, I'm not sure how much of y'all's performance was just USCe playing poorly and not being good enough at the pass to keep your D honest and how much of it is A&M's D finally reflecting the talent that has supposedly been recruited. I'm not sure how much new info the Arkansas game will give us. If their passing isn't good enough to stop y'all from loading the box (I don't think it is, but we'll see), all that tells us is that we will have to complete passes to win, but I think we have shown we can do that.
09-25-2014, 03:36 PM
ShotgunDawg

I thought we actually had some success against Texas A&M last season. Yes they scored 51 points, but we stopped them 8 times. 21 of their points came short fields. I think Collins put together a great gameplan against them last year, and but we made too many mistakes to win. I also think Collins' gamplan may have helped LSU and Missouri

Here is the drive chart from last year, and notice the short field drives that won them the game.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...&sz=w1345-h515
09-25-2014, 03:49 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I thought we actually had some success against Texas A&M last season.

I think we definitely beat last year's A&M team with this year's team. I just think this year's A&M team is better. They may not be quite as good on offense, but they're still plenty good on offense and their defense looked a lot better against USCe than it ever did last year. If it turns out that was due more to USCe being terrible than A&M being better, we might have a surprising Saturday. But I think they are actually improved. My only question is how much.
09-25-2014, 03:59 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I think we definitely beat last year's A&M team with this year's team. I just think this year's A&M team is better. They may not be quite as good on offense, but they're still plenty good on offense and their defense looked a lot better against USCe than it ever did last year. If it turns out that was due more to USCe being terrible than A&M being better, we might have a surprising Saturday. But I think they are actually improved. My only question is how much.

I think we will learn a lot about A&M this weekend. They lost a lot of talent since last year. I'm not ready to crown them as being better this year because they ambushed a team that was starting a bunch of new players on opening night. They've played bad teams since then.
09-25-2014, 04:24 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Playing a 3 man front against them was great when JFF was there, provided you had DL and OLB athletes like LSU and Bama had.

I don't see why you'd try that with the way hill plays though. I don't like the way we match up with them at all but one thing that should help us is Wells and Brown are fast enough to do a good job in coverage.

No it wasn't. LSU played a 4-3. Bama played a 3-4, but that was their base defense and they still couldn't really stop them. We can definitely win this game, but people doubting A&M's talent are just foolish or ignorant. They have recruited extremely well since joining the SEC.
09-25-2014, 04:32 PM
confucius say

My two cents:

Schematically, I play a lot of cover two, nothing over the top. I have a lot of pre snap movement, but mostly play a cover cover two zone (easier to stop running game than when in man bc defenders never turn back to qb and rb). I jam the piss out of their wr on the outside (even when in zone) and then my corners fall into their zone. When I do play a man look, I keep safety help over the top and jam their wr on outside and in slot. When I blitz, I bring the pressure in Trill's face, not from the outside. Nothing makes passing qb's more uncomfortable than pressure right in their face.

Our down four have to get pressure. You need to hear ryan brown and aj jefferson's names a lot. And we MUST tackle well. This is key. aTm makes a living on yards after catch.
09-25-2014, 05:14 PM
IMissJack

IMO the key to A&M's success is their OL. They have had some great talent,

there, and they still do. If we cannot get pressure with front 4, then Kenny Hill will sit back in the pocket and take the intermediate 10-12 yd passes all day.
09-25-2014, 06:46 PM
Dawgcentral

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there, and they still do. If we cannot get pressure with front 4, then Kenny Hill will sit back in the pocket and take the intermediate 10-12 yd passes all day.

Exactly. We get pressures and sacks with the front four and we'll get instant hits and coughed up balls on receivers. Combine that with open field tackles on the short stuff, making them earn it, and we'll have success.

Our experienced LB's will be a tremendous asset. Depth will keep us fresh. Summlin's play calling and innovation will be our worst enemy.
09-25-2014, 08:07 PM
JDog13

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Originally Posted by EAVdog

Arkansas will beat them up physically this weekend. I wouldn't be surprised to see Arkansas win that game or keep it real close. Don't sleep on Arkansas because they are a throwback Offense. They physically beat Texas Tech into submission with 2 of the SEC's best Running Backs.

Then aTm has to turn around and come to Starkville. I feel pretty good about this game.

And the next weekend Auburn comes to Starkville after playing LSU.

Love this schedule.

Yeah but UTEP ran all over TT also.
09-27-2014, 11:06 PM
evan_aggie

Ok. Im here to revisit. Miss St should be 6pt fav. A&M offense looked like crap against Arky and we'll sure as hell lose to the Bulldogs if we play like that.

I think our better pass rushers will shine more against you guys than they could against a run first...or all the time offense.
09-27-2014, 11:11 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by evan_aggie

Ok. Im here to revisit. Miss St should be 6pt fav. A&M offense looked like crap against Arky and we'll sure as hell lose to the Bulldogs if we play like that.

I think our better pass rushers will shine more against you guys than they could against a run first...or all the time offense.

We ran for over 300 yards against LSU. Try again.
09-27-2014, 11:16 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by evan_aggie

Ok. Im here to revisit. Miss St should be 6pt fav. A&M offense looked like crap against Arky and we'll sure as hell lose to the Bulldogs if we play like that.

I think our better pass rushers will shine more against you guys than they could against a run first...or all the time offense.

yeah, we ran for over 300 against LSU and we have an extremely mobile QB that will likely give your pass rushers hell. If fact, I'll go ahead and say that you will likely not want to hear from your pass rushers, because, if they get to far up field trying to sack Dak, he'll take off for about 20 or a TD

To compare us to Arkansas, we are far more balanced, and, while Arkansas tries to pound it down your throat with two tight ends, we will spread your ass out and then pound it down your throat.

Problem is, you don't know if our NFL running back or duel threat NFL QB will be doing the running. Futhermore, we have no problem to going play action and hitting one of our 5 or 6 capable receivers down the field.

Your best chance is to out score us on deep passes down the field. Our CBs smell like toast because they've been burnt a lot.

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