Personally I think some posts Should be deleted, saying that our team benefits from a senior tearing his ACL just seems in poor taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
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Personally I think some posts Should be deleted, saying that our team benefits from a senior tearing his ACL just seems in poor taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Our team did not benefit from this. While it may not have a dramatic impact, our safety net just got a whole heckuva lot smaller...
This. For the 18 millionth time, the best programs don't have OL as major contributors before their RS SO year. It's only the true freaks of nature that play earlier. It takes those guys that long to develop the necessary strength and technique to be able to go toe-to-toe with the grown men on the DL now. We've played younger guys more because we've had to. But labeling Thomas a bust before he's even taken a snap is ridiculous. Especially when you consider he's supposedly made tremendous strides since bowl practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas_Dawg
I've never seen C34 claim this year's OL would be our best ever. He HAS said that it would be solid and has enough depth to hold up. I agree with him on that analysis. But I'd say our best OL ever was either '98 or '00. Those two OLs were absolutely badass.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Unless Im mistaken, other than Clausell, Robinson is the only guy on our roster that has played snaps at OT in a SEC game. Did Senior even play last year at OT? I thought he might have, but I'm not sure. If not, then we don't have anyone besides Clausell that has played OT in a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
Robinson wasn't great, but he was a solid swing tackle at worst. Now, we have Clausell and Senior at OT. Who else? Malone is a OG. We are an injury away from Cole Carter being a starter for us. Lets just hope this is just a rumor, I haven't seen any confirmation.
I hope Jake Thomas gets better. He wasn't credited for any allowed sacks last year, but he didn't record the first pancake block. Can you believe that?**Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Senior played last year & actually started a game that Clausell missed due to injury. Senior prolly played more snaps last year than Robinson. Senior was going to be the starter regardless. The question is who do you feel more comfortable with as a backup Robinson or Carter/Warren.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
First of all, I hate to hear that a player is hurt. It certainly hurts our depth because Robinson has experience and he would have played some- likely in a reseve role.
That said, there is a silver lining.
I think it forces us to play what I feel is our best o-line group:
LT- Clausell
LG- Clayborn
C- Day
RG- Beckwith
RT- Malone
Now I say that, not having seen how Justin Senior is playing. From many accounts, he is performing well. That would give us another group that I would be fine with assuming the reports on Senior are true.
LT- Clausell
LG- Beckwith maybe Clayborn
C- Day
RG- Malone
RT- Senior
The other silver lining here is assuming Robinson takes a medical redshirt (too soon to know, and this is rumor so we don't 100% know that Robinson is hurt, although coming from Coach, I'm going to say it's 99% true) that would give us another veteran for next year. It also means more playing time for Senior and Rufus Warren who is going to need it. So for those worried about next year, we may see:
LT- Senior (who will have a year of starting experience)
LG- Clayborn if he's not at C
C- ???? Maybe Clayborn
RG- Malone
RT- Robinson
And sure there will be some battles, but that group is already looking less concerning to me than it did about a month ago. It also tells me that we may benefit more from getting a JUCO C than a JUCO G or T.
Don't go believing that silliness. Robinson sucked. I hate he got hurt but that don't change the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I guess we all, "suck," at some point in our life, That sucks.
Senior played more than Robinson last year and had already taken the job for this year. Nobody is glad Damien got hurt- but I stand by my statement that it could make us better because it could force Hev's hand with Malone
Robinson played in every game last year. Senior didn't play against Upig or Bama. No one is saying he is good, but what Im saying is that he is better than several other OT's on our roster and was pre-August the 1st team starter. At worst he was the third best OT on the team. You think Cole Carter is better? Jake Thomas? Malone may be better, but he has only played at OG in his career. So before we keep celebrating losing crucial OL depth, we may want to take a damn breath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
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Originally Posted by JDog13
Notice to all you asswipes...I said I jumped the gun....get over it
I was actually joking with Cadaver bro. You never crossed my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
For those of you who aren't on 24/7, the admins over there said that Robinson has been running with the 3s the past week or so, that Senior is with the 1s and Warren with the 2s. I hate that he got injured as much as anyone but this injury should have minimal impact on our RT position during the season.
Those guys honestly can't be any worse. Robinson looks like a 4 year old out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Ouch. Truth hurts, doesn't it? Hate that Robinson is hurt, but he's never been what I'd call a contributor. Now please God let Hev move Malone to OT where he belongs. Senior would be a badass as the swing OT this season. And it would let us ease him in as opposed to throwing him into the deep end and hoping he can swim.Quote:
Originally Posted by UMCDawg16
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Originally Posted by Goat Holder
For once, you and I agree on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
If Warren has gotten off his ass and decided to put his heart into playing OT- then we are good at RT with him and Senior.Quote:
Originally Posted by UMCDawg16
Best OL since 2000 Cadaver
I feel awful for Damien, and appreciate him being a Bulldog, but, ultimately, I see this as possibly preventing Mullen from being able to pull a Ladarius Perkins/Josh Robinson thing like he did last year where he played the "hard working SR" over the more effective player.
become a mediocre season.............
This injury in no way affects our top 8-9 linemen...so we are fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Robinson gets credit for being in games because he's on the FG unit. That is his contribution to MSU. He is just not a football player. Nice guy, good teammate, not a ball player.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
They may not have been better last year because they were all somewhat young and inexperienced but THIS year with another year under their belt I would not be surprised at all if Carter, Thomas and Malone are all as good or better than Robinson. As a 5th year SR Robinson is what he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Robinson was shuttling between 2nd and 3rd team. He is at best our 5th OT. I've seen him during practice in person. There was no way he was gonna start this year no matter how good Pawwwwwl said he was doing at practice. aGAIN- it sux he got hurt- but his injury doesnt change anything about our OL that is going to play SEC games.
Why are we talking down our own players? No matter where he is on the depth chart he is a Bulldawg. He's out in the heat and doing the work and is worthy of my support. Anyone that finds any pleasure in an injury is worse than a bear fan, you are a heartless ?!~>&$):(&
I havent seen anyone find pleasure in his injury.
Talking about "silver linings" to an injury and adding literal insult to injury by commenting on how a player sucked or how bad that player was is classless. Period. If you can't see that then there's nothing I can say to help you. I've said my piece and I'm done.
I think you need to re-read my post. I'm assuming that you are referring to me since my post referred to silver linings. Especially since one of my silver linings was Robinson could potentially get a medical RS and COME BACK next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
I don't think he is talking about you but this thread is on Ole Miss boards now as I have seen it on their boards. This board has a bulls eye on its back and anything Ole Miss can use from this board they will no matter what the context. No injury is good especially with the amount of work these guys put in. I hope Damien Robinson comes back and seeks his sixth year with a medical redshirt. I agree with Todd that this could be a silver lining as it would help us out next year. I wish him a speedy recovery and hope we see him play next year!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Analysts talk about how injuries affect teams all the time- this is no different
Even analysts have more class than to talk about how a player sucked and won't matter after they are injured. Just shut the tread down. You've already heard that bear trolls are using this on their boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Shutting the thread down would be counterintuitive to the goal of getting hits on the page. Above all else, hits and ad revenue reign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
The only person in this thread that I've read that has denigrated Robinson by saying he sucks is Goat Holder and he should definitely be called out on the carpet for that because its pathetic to run a guy down right after he supposedly has suffered a significant injury. The other opinions here have just been dissecting the overall impact on the play of our OL going forward (assuming DR is not available), some believing overall negative and some overall positive, and I don't really see any problem with that. Just because you believe this situation may force the play of guys you believe are more capable doesn't mean anyone is taking joy in an injury, that's ridiculous. Those last year who thought Dak was our best option at QB under Mullen certainly took no joy when Tyler got banged up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
Right on.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
A contributor is exactly what he's been. He has not been a world beater, but we've been better because of his contributions. He hansn't been a player where we've wondered why he was playing; we just haven't had good OT depth and he has filled a hole for us, and anybody outside the power5 would likely be thrilled to have him.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
I hate it for him if he's going to be injured his senior season. I'm also guessing he won't come back for a 6th year; unless he has a grad degree he wants to work on and the numbers work out scholarship wise, it just doesn't seem like it makes sense to try to comeback from that injury for what will most likely be special teams work.
I tend to agree, would be nice if he did but if he feels he will only be a backup he may not be motivated to want to come back. On the other hand, he may enjoy being part of the team and want to play out his Senior year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
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Originally Posted by Coach34