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Here's just a littler reference of the EPL players in the game today.
Belgium: Romelu Lukaku (Chelsea, played for Everton this past year), Jan Vertoengen (Tottenham), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal), Marouane Fellaini (Manchester United), Vincent Kompany (Manchester City) Kevin Mirallas (Everton), Eden Hazard (Chelsea), Nacer Chadli (Tottenham), Kevin De Bruyne (plays in Germany now, but started this past year at Chelsea), Adnan Januzaj (Manchester United), Simon Mignolet (Liverpool), Christian Benteke who has a torn Achilles plays for Aston Villa. I believe 12 of their 23 players play in the EPL.
USA: Tim Howard (Everton), Jozy Altidore (Sunderland), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Brad Guzan (Aston Villa). We have 4 players in the EPL.
Other notable players: Luis Suarez (Uruguay-Liverpool), Wayne Rooney (England-Manchester United) Robin Van Persie (Netherlandsj-Manchester United), Mesuit Ozil (Germany-Arsenal), Lucas Podolski (Germany-Arsenal), Per Mertesacker (Germany-Arsenal)
You could even argue that La Liga has been a better league over the past few seasons, so that list is missing huge names in other leagues across Europe
Yeah I'm about to get into it myself this season. I've resisted long enough
If anyone wants, I can give a slight little rundown of the bigger teams so y'all can know a little about them. Consensus seems that a lot y'all don't know much but wanna get into it, so if you think it'll help I can do that. If not I won't bother
I know a little bit but never cared to get into it for whatever reason. One of my best friends is a huge Liverpool fan so I'll probably just watch with him. Dunno if I'll wind up going for LP or not but it's a good starting point.Quote:
Originally Posted by DudyDawg
After the last World Cup, it was the only team I knew to follow because of Tim Howard. I've sort of developed a bond with them now over the last 4 years. Donavon was on loan with them for a while and those were fun games to watch with him and Howard both playing.
Go for itQuote:
Originally Posted by DudyDawg
SB Nation or one of those online magazines did a "what if college football had European-style relegation?" series. It was pretty interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by DudyDawg
Intro by EDSBS guy: http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-footbal...merican-sports
FAQ: http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-footbal...ent-relegation
Relegation plan: http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-footbal...all-relegation
2012 in action: http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...all-relegation
Updated for 2013-2014: http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...tion-2013-2014
All stories: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-relegation
Had same questions earlier. I found this nice consolidated schedule on foxsports: http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/sche...ate=2014-08-05Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I would appreciate that. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by DudyDawg
Nice. Thanks man. All of you other newbies keep me in the loop and maybe we'll root for the same clubsQuote:
Originally Posted by hacker
But is there any precedent of a domestic league adding a team from another country? EPL is all England (or UK, maybe?), La Liga is all Spain, Serie A is all Italy, Bundesliga is all Germany. AFAIK, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Nope...No precendent of an outside country's team being added to a top-tier league.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
What is the FA Cup? I was look for EPL in the link Hacker linked....but the first EPL teams listed were under FA Cup instead of EPL? Do they start the season off with a tourney or something?
Says Arsenal vs Man City
The FA Cup is a British tournament involving all of the leagues. Basically it's a big free-for-all to give some of the smaller teams some exposure against the EPL teams. It's actually pretty coolQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I was actually wondering the same. Found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FA_Community_ShieldQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
All of the different leagues and tournaments are confusing as shit. So technically a team can be playing EPL, Champions, and FA Cup at the same time? Just alternating games accordingly?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
It's pretty confusing, but I like it. I wish there was more interleague play in our sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
So who won the Champions League last year?Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Real Madrid 4-1 over Atletico MadridQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Sorry for all the questions....Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
Can 2 teams from the same league face off in the Champions League Final? Or do they align it to where they can't?
Oh they can. And they do. Basically they just seed all of the teams based on where they finished in their respective leagues. Real and Atletico are both from La LigaQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Still reading but I wanted to say that this is absolutely hilarious and would be highly entertaining if it did happen. Ole Miss has gotten demoted twice already haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Here's is my kind of dumbed down version of the bigger teams in EPL. I won't go much into history, cause you can find that online, but I'll kinda show ya what you'll get from them looking at them on the field this season.
Arsenal- Wouldnt quite consider them a true title contender, but with one or two big signings they could be. More likely goal for them is to finish in the top four and qualify for the Champions League (CL). They have a great stadium, and are known for having one of the best playing surfaces in the world. They will play a slower, possession based game built on short, compact passes to score. Their aim is usually to win the possession battle to win the game. If you can appreciate possession and smart, slow buildup passing, then this is your team. Nickname: Gunners
Chelsea- Come into the fold recently as a title contender and winner. Third place last year, not by much. Their russian owner, Roman Abromavich (sp?) has pumped a ton of money into the team. Their big problem last season was that they had no consistent striker, so they just bought Diego Costa of Spain, the third leading scorer in La Liga. Solid defense, solid midfield, really strong attack built off speed on the wings with players dribbling inside to create shots and chances and creativity in the middle. Coached by Jose Mourinho, who is a character on the bench. If you like that kinda coach, you'll like them. I expect them to win the title this year. Nickname: Blues
Liverpool- overachieved last season, finishing second. Best player is Suarez (the biter) and he will miss time at the start of the year. He led the league w 31 goals, so you can imagine the loss. Solid midfield, good attack, some questions in defense. Gave up a ton of goals last season and scored more. They probably have some of the best fans in europe, and have some great traditions. Look them up. They are the team with all the history but not much recent success, but always are a team to keep an eye on. If you love tradition, crazy fans, they are for you. Hideous away unis tho (called kits in soccer, if you wanna sound smart)…. Expect them to finish fighting for the fourth spot, probably fifth, I think last year was bit of a fluke. Nickname: Reds
Manchester United- Second biggest club on earth, best history in England. Last year was terrible for them, but they've added some small pieces that will help them. Play a typical english game of possession and physical defense. Not england's most talented or exciting team, but will be a lot better. Loads of cash, but haven't spent it well lately imo. Great stadium (nicknamed theater of dreams). I expect them to be down again, but not as bad as last season, fighting liverpool for the last spot in the Champions League, fourth or fifth in the table (standings). THey have a new coach, who is the coach of the Dutch, who should bring stability. May take a year or two for them to get back to the top. Nickname: Red devils
Manchester city- Reigning champs. Also new to the championship scene due to huge influx of money. Big spenders recently and probably tied with Chelsea for most talented team. Have a ton of big name attacking options and will score loads of goals. They play a nice mix of possession and fast football, and love to attack. Have some good creators and a very strong midfield as well. A lot of people first getting into the EPL like them bc they play an exciting style. I make a point to watch them, and I'm not really a fan of them. They just play good ball. I expect them to finish second, and really push for the title. Just hard to win twice in a row, so I picked Chelsea to win. Nickname: Citizens
Tottenham- Probably the worst on the list. Have good history, but in recent memory have been meh. Should probably finish somewhere mid to high table, like 6th or 7th. They are in london, and bc of that and their history have a good following both across the pond and in the states. Past two off seasons they sold their best player to real madrid, but haven't gotten much production from the people brought in to replace them. No real title or CL qualifying threat. If you like an underdog, you'll pull for them. Nickname: Hotspurs
Thats all I got, and just tried to get your feet wet. I'm no expert and you can obviously find more on these teams online, but I am a huge soccer fan and want more people to get into it so I can talk about it! Hope it helps get you all into it and hope we can have good discussions this season. Feel free to ask me more if you want.
So if they split, and one wins their League Tourney and the other wins the Champions league in a rematch....who has the bragging rights? Who is the "Champion"?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
Technically they're both champions...But they will have played multiple "Derbies" which are inter-city games. That's where you determine the true bragging rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Thanks Dudy. Helps a lot. I'm leaning towards Arsenal, Man City, or Everton for an underdog. But going to watch them all play before deciding. Thanks again for the info
So no true "Super Bowl"?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
I mean the best example of a full Super Bowl would be the UEFA Champions League, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
The Suarez suspension wont kill Liverpool when he goes to Barcelona for Alexis Sanchez and 30-50 mill.
No Super Bowl as far as domestic leagues go. The champions league final is actually bigger worldwide than the Super Bowl, and my team won it this season so it was great. Real Madrid now has ten, the most CL trophies of any team.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
Don't think that will happen anytime soon now, and certainly not for that much money if it does. Still could, but he cost himself and Liverpool a lot of moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by cheat2win
Both. One can brag about winning the league, others can brag about winning the European crown (CL)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
Are there any stupid salary cap rules or anything in these leagues? Or can they just throw as much money as they want at it?
Gun to my head, if I had to pick my favorite English team, it would be arsenal. Love watching their passing game and their stadium and field are simply beautiful. So I would push you to that. Like I said, if you can appreciate good passing and possession, they're your teamQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
There is a fifa fair play, which is trying to cut down on the super clubs kinda thing of buying anyone and everyone. But it is much different than our style caps and I can't even understand it. But the basic answer to that is no, not really a salary cap. It's mostly making teams pay fines for breaking the fifa fair play rulesQuote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Good.Quote:
Originally Posted by DudyDawg
Oh, btw, to you other noobs, it's "re-all" Madrid, not "reel" Madrid. One of my friends said "reel" Madrid the other day and it cracked me up.
This probably makes you happy, Dudy: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...al-Madrid.html
Ehh. I don't know. Don't get me wrong, Rodriguez is a stud, but I don't want to lose di Maria. He's had a huge year, and we want to keep him. What's taken this likely move so long is that we want to keep both. Hope we can find a way to do that. May have to lose some younger talent, but it can happen. Also been rumors of Falcao moving to Real this summer too, and both have publicly said they want to play for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker