I was on board until we absolutely collapsed and tied our school record 13 game losing streak this year. You do realize we were at one point 13-6. You have to try really hard to get to 14-19 from that point. I understand he needs time and all of that. Heck, in this thread I am even saying I want Smoot, Engie, and Coach to be right. Does that sound like someone who has given up totally on Ray?