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Not really sure how good a fit this is. You have to at least be excited as an Auburn fan because it couldn't be much worse. Wouldn't be surprised if its a lot like Frank Martin at South Carolina. So far he's not looking great and to say that South Carolina will be good next year is a huge stretch.
Well shit!! I wanted Pearl. He'll end up getting in trouble again though. In 10 years after like multiple elite 8s and having Auburn on the bubble or better in every single season after his first one. He made a lifetime enemy with some dude in the NCAA back when Pearl was at Iowa as an assistant and turned in Illinois on violations. Boys we have allowed Scott Stricklin and Mark Keenum to turn our basketball program into Poor Ol Little Miss State. Y'all can quit with the Malik Newman shit too. He ain't coming here. Auburn might get him now. They ain't afraid to spend money like Poor Ol Little Miss State is.
Just not in basketball..Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Because our team will not be as good as most teams in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Frank Martin ain't no Bruce Pearl. That psycho did still beat Kentucky and get two wins in the SEC tournament though.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
His assistants can recruitQuote:
Originally Posted by whosyourdawgy
At least they have something to gain some positive momentum on. A top recruit and a signature win over Kentucky. What does Rick Ray have that should make us excited for next year? Finally having a full roster his third year on the job? Travis Daniels? Beating a 7 scholarship Vandy team in the SEC tournament to end a 13 game losing streak?Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
No way Ray will have a full roster starting his third season. No way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raytoraid83
We ended up with Loafers because he had the inside track with Dr. Keenum because of his father-in-law.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully01
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Originally Posted by whosyourdawgy
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Well we know Auburn has NO trouble with NOT doing things the right way so I am not surprised at all they hired him. Our milk toast admin wouldn't have touched him with a 10 foot pole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
He sure as hell doesn't have support from most of you and never did have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raytoraid83
If Stricklin told Pearl he could have the job but we won't be getting involved in the AAU program he would've laughed in his face.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Haha ok. I went to almost every home SEC game this year. Sorry I try to be realistic when looking at the situation we are in.Quote:
Originally Posted by C222
i posted many times last year that ray got as much out of that roster as we could have expected. i honestly don't think coach K would have won more than 1 or 2 more games last season. however when 2 of our 3 signees don't clear and we are desperate for players, that's a huge red flag. then we come out with an embarassingly bad non-conference schedule and arguably got worse, even though the overall record improved. i'm looking at the incoming recruits, and i'm not seeing anything to get excited over. just because i don't put on blinders doesn't mean i don't support him. i hope i'm wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by C222
It won't be hard for Ray to win the support of the majority of the fans. It's all on him. He just has to show the fans something to be optomistic about. I thought he was on his way when we beat ole miss and started 3-2 in the league. But he couldn't capitalize on his good start.Quote:
Originally Posted by C222
No different than what I said toward the end of Stansbury's tenure. He was losing the fans (even though he never lost their support) and it was all on him. He was the only one that could change the direction he and the program were going. And in the end, he didn't do enough.
It's Ray's turn now. Can he do it? I don't know, but I sure as hell hope so. You think this has been a difficult 2-year stretch for MSU basketball? If Ray doesn't work out, it might turn into 5, 6 maybe even 7 years or more of abysmal basketball.
We ain't putting our heads in the sand and letting Stricklin & Keenum turn back the clock on MSU to 1984. This shit is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by C222
His show cause doesn't end until some time this fall. He won't be able to recruit until then.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
Ok for you Ray apologists and haters. There's one reason this hire isn't good for us. You have a University who's willing to and blatantly play the game in the face of the NCAA hiring a coach who is also willing to play the game. This does not bode well for our prospects of beating them anytime soon, unless Ray can find at least a couple diamonds in the rough.
The point is that SC and Auburn, who were well behind Mississippi State in pecking order of the SEC two years ago, were able to go and hire Pearl with an Elite 8, two Sweet 16's, and a SEC Championship, and Frank Martin, who has been to an Elite 8 and brought Kansas State out of the ashes in the shadows of Kansas-a top 3 program.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
They are great coaches with LEGITIMATE resumes. Trying to compare Rick Ray's resume to Martin's and Pearl's resumes is like comparing two Neurosurgeons to a freaking Nurse's assistant.
Auburn and SC lured SUCCESSFUL coaches to their programs. What did we do? We hired a nobody.
I agree with this. Pearl is a homerun hire.Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
Great points and if you can't tell Martin is VERY close to turning it around at SC . They only lose 1 player off their roster this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by TrueMaroon
They were well behind Mississippi State in the pecking order, but we were asking a coach to come into a worse situation. And if Pearl were not still under NCAA scrutiny, Auburn's hire would look a lot worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueMaroon
We may have screwed up royally with the coaching search and hire, but it's not really fair to point to the Auburn hire unless there was a proven coach I'm not aware of that was months away from coming off a show-cause when we were looking.
Kids will want to play for Pearl recruiting won't be hard for him. Auburn wins all the way around with this hire.
Stricklin & Keenum turning back the clocks to 1984. Don't wanna spend any money while they building a new foosball stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueMaroon
We could of just hired Bruce Pearl a month ago. Like I said fifty times. Keep not listening though. Guess we need our heads fully ripped off our bodies before we realize we are getting slaughtered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
So we couldn't get Steve Prohm, Bryce Drew, or even Rob Jeter, but Bruce Pearl would have said yes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
You seriously believe that Bracky would have signed off on us hiring Pearl? Bahahahaha. Bracky would've killed it at inception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Yea a month ago broham not two years ago. Try to keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by C222
THATS THE PROBLEM!! Keenum, Stricklin, Bracky the whole lot of them are still sitting in 1984.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
Yeah, because so much has changed from two years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
we couldn't get them because stricklin ****ed up the hiring search, not because we were such a terrible program they turned us down. stricklin ****ed it up, plain and simple. i hope to god he's learned from his mistakes in that coaching search and won't make them again next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by C222
You can bet Jacobs and Pearl were talking at least a month ago. He didnt call him up the other day and they worked it out this quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I'll say this and always wondered- since we were having the problems we were in luring a coach because of the situation- why did we not step up and throw some money out there? Money talks and if it means paying 2.2 or so for the right guy then you do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
So it's cool for Auburn's AD to be kicking the shit out of SS? Just clarifying what our expectations are for our Athletic Director. Is SS job to turn our basketball program into the 1984 church league team with less fans? He's succeeded. But all is well cause we just put up dis fancy sign dat lights up all night long on da foosball stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The dire situation that keeps get mentioned , wasn't near as dire, until after Rick Ray came on to the scene, lost recruits, ran off or lost players...We had the making of a fairly good team, if everything had stayed in place. Certainly not the cluster **** we got now.......
If Ray doesn't work out and with the extra revenue we will be receiving from the SEC Network, there is no reason we shouldn't throw out big time money for a proven coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Completely agree with this. Guys like White and Tyndall are making 500k in conference USA. They would walk to Starkville for 2MQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
There are a few small schools shedding out big bucks for coaches ( VCU, Wichita St) but a lot of them are not. Jacobs can obviously sell himself and the program. Stricklin obviously cannot. I'm gonna shit a brick if Scott ever has to hire a football coach
LOL. "Makings of a fairly good team" = 1 returning starter(who was most likely leaving anyway) -- and one bench player that got meaningful minutes. Yeah -- that was the "makings of a good team"...Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
Good to know you support drug abuse and lack of player accountability though... It makes the rest of your stance quite clear...
Ray was brought in to clean up the mess- it was known before time he was going to run off a few because of the drug problems. This was a surprise to nobodyQuote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg