Yep. Big time Leach hater here.*******Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Funny I've been accused of liking him too much and now I hate him by MSU fans in the span of a week.
Yep. Big time Leach hater here.*******Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Funny I've been accused of liking him too much and now I hate him by MSU fans in the span of a week.
That's insane. Please find some of those posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Sure but we were already supporting baseball very well before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I know that our "coach" laid another egg yesterday in a winnable game, one that the team was completely unprepared for and apparently still hungover at 8 PM. I know that he's now 2-17 with no sign of ever turning the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I know that the vast majority of our fans don't think that's acceptable, and even the ones who claim that it is don't really have any counterarguments beyond just flinging insults.
And if he does well in the portal and wins the opinion will improve. We'll see what happens but about 2 weeks from now I have a feeling the opinion will improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
It's not bad enough to where MSU is going to fire him at this point no matter how bad you want it to be.
Just search "Leach fired" up in the top left and read through the whole threadsQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired
We lost to an 8 win team. You expected our offensive line and defense to magically get better because Arnett was attending practices or something? It was a one possession game in the fourth quarter. Bad players look bad. You on the other hand by your own admission accused our team of partying without any knowledge or evidence. Losing wasn't out of the realm of possibility at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Come on, man. You really think that was what I was saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Wake Forest was an 8-win ACC team, yet all of computer models and the Vegas odds favored us, and the computer models weren't taking into account that Wake had a lot more opt-outs. A loss wasn't out of question (bowl games are always funny), but it was the near-unanimous opinion of all the boards (not just me) that we looked totally unprepared, and the fact that we had multiple players with dehydration issues has to raise some red flags.
If Lebby had been good all year, I could chalk this up to a bowl game fluke, but when it's part of pattern, it's hard to ignore.
ahhhh, a few emotional posts after losing to Mississippi. Gotcha. Didnt think it was some big serious thoughts that went on for days. Didnt remember anything like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
The only pattern is our offensive line and defense being trash. And KT playing like a freshman. No one wants to hear it but if Shapen plays we might have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Next year will be a different team and Lebby's success will be determined by how we do in the portal.
You mean like today?** Who would have thought that fan opinion on a coach would be less than favorable after a loss?**Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yes, at the very least, it would have been nice to have him for the plays where we had to put in LK near the goal line and settle for a FG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Too bad Shapen quit on the team. (Or even worse if as someone claimed yesterday, he was willing to come to Charlotte but Lebby told him not to bother.)
There is no HOLE that he has dug. Lebby will be your coach next year. He's going to be your coach the following year too. Get use to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Oh SNAP!! PREACH IT TODD!!!!! AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
You're in uncharted territory with that one. It's too far out on a limb for the rest of the Lebby supporters here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
No no no. Todd is right. You do nothing but try to cause a fake outrage and claim you "Speak" for the majority of fans. You don't. You don't have a pulse on the situation. You are not the MSU FAN Spokes person. You run from board to board to proclaim the fans want Lebby gone trying to sow discord as if you are fighting some religious and righteous battle that God himself appointed you to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I still think he is here for several more years and 6 wins will be tops in any given season.
Looks like the same guys that want Lebby fired. Lol. Most of the threads are defending him. Now do DMQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
It's called projecting.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I (along with lots of others) "run from board to board" and see that almost everyone wants him gone. EliteDawgs is the only one that has more than just a tiny handful of Lebby supporters, but it's still a majority here who wishes we would make the change.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
You're asking to trust you over my lyin' eyes.
Hell, hoops has been one of Lebby's biggest backers, and Lebby lost him last night.
Did you just say that SOCIAL MEDIA... LMAO! WOW.... Dude. No words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Socail media now =s real life.......................
We didn't try to run clock against Texas. We were running fast and snapping the ball with 30 seconds on the playclock. I will give him credit that for 3 quarters he looked like a coach who knew what he was doing. Then he went completely retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Did you notice he linked threads that had HIMSELF calling for a 9 win coach to be fired... LOL! This dude literally goes board to board to board to trash all things MSU. Never known a MSU fan to go 24/7 trashing all things MSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
You wouldn?t have been a member of Genespage circa 2001-2003 possibly?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
What 9-win coach have I ever called for to be fired?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Yep it is. With "Fans" like him, we don't need enemies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
No I am telling you that social media is not real life. I'm telling you that you just trashed your own argument again by say you and others do go from message board to message board to sow discord to try and have an outcome that you desire. I bet you count yourself as 4 or 5 fans too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
The "discord" is being caused by our 2-17 head coach, and his so-called supporters who won't even try to argue that he's doing a good job but instead just call the majority stupid for thinking 2-17 isn't good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
It's OK for people to want to make a coaching change. It was OK in 2008, 2019, 2023, and it's OK now too. It's fine for people to talk about it on a message board.
hope they buy us some much better players. the ones we have need much help
My biggest worry is that all I heard was how valuable the extra 15 practices were. It is another spring practice so you can get a lot of development to get ready for spring
That team looked worse than the team that beat ASU. Good coaching actually develops players. Our players are actually getting worse.
Add in the bad decision making during games and it doesn't lead to hope for next year.
He's a total and complete bust, and only those who won't admit they're wrong are backing himQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
how many more bust years will he get, 3 or maybe 4?
OMG, if he went conservative, like Mullen v Bama, ppl would rip him for taking the foot off the throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
He made some pretty poor in-game decisions so far, but the team is improving. Next year will tell the tale on Lebby as HC. I don't have a great deal of confidence, but I think he deserves the chance to get it right. I hope he spends a little time looking back at games this year and looking at what he could've done differently.
That said, this was not the year to make a move. Michigan just hired a guy that would've crawled to Starkville for our job a year or two ago.
I mean, if he won we would have all been thrilled no matter how it happened, and if he blew a 17-point lead and lost, we would have all (well, not all actually...) been upset no matter how it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Are we though? I would say we got worse from September to October, worse from October to November, and worse from November to January.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
You are full of crap. We have explained it over and over. It's to the point that people are tired of actually responding to you few. That makes you think that you are in the majority. It doesn't. It means we get it is useless because you have an agenda and have little reasoning skills. We simply sit back and laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
But for you once more. Then it's back to laughing at you few.
- Lebby walked into very little. What we did have as far as production, he brought in. We lacked the system and the money. Nobody is really going to count that first year due to the over all circumstances.
- In year 2 massive improvement every where. That leads to more money and the reason why we are getting great options coming in via the portal.
So yes. He has taken the beating and improved. That's what he was paid to do. There is nothing that shows we will not improve. In fact, the move on defense alone makes next year better. Arnett is a proven DC and we had the #12 rush dfense with him here and our defenses consistently ranked in the 30s. T fact he is making changes on the offense along with the dedication to bring in an OL and DL shows there will be improvement.
Make zero mistake. Nobody is satisfied with 5 wins. We just aren't interested in your solution to fire a coach that is improving our team.
It's bad and last night almost moved me completely. But I still consider this year 1, and I would like to see vast improvements next year. Hell, we've sucked for most of 100 years, what's one more?!? His underwhelming hires this offseason haven't instilled much hope however.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Be so terrible that you lose yo Toledo by 40 at home, so the next season you get credit for close losses.