Lebby just said Intial reporta on KT

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

It's really sad that some of yall think Lebby was calling designed runs for KT. Some, yes. But KT pulled the ball down and ran a ton on his own.

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It doesn't matter if it's a designed run or the Qb takes off you protect yourself. A intelligent coach tells tells his Qb to slide or throw the ball away. KT has do make better decisions that assist with the process. However injured in a meaningless game you pull him.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

It doesn't matter if it's a designed run or the Qb takes off you protect yourself. A intelligent coach tells tells his Qb to slide or throw the ball away. KT has do make better decisions that assist with the process. However injured in a meaningless game you pull him.

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or maybe you sound like he should wear a big ole padded suit. He still must improve pre snap reads and processing progressions or he won't play much as folks assume or be injured or both. and we thought shapen was injury prone. see what i did there?

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Originally Posted by Pancho

or maybe you sound like he should wear a big ole padded suit. He still must improve pre snap reads and processing progressions or he won't play much as folks assume or be injured or both. and we thought shapen was injury prone. see what i did there?

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I see nothing but that you can't read with comprehension.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

It doesn't matter if it's a designed run or the Qb takes off you protect yourself. A intelligent coach tells tells his Qb to slide or throw the ball away. KT has do make better decisions that assist with the process. However injured in a meaningless game you pull him.

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I tend to agree. Between cramping and a head injury, he probably should have stayed out. But the kid is a gamer. Going to have to teach him to either slide or learn how to run behind his pads though. He runs dead straight up.

what KT needs is a QB coach to go with an O line. I didn't know til now that you are also an english comp scholar in addition to your other experiences and talents. I will look forward to the 26 season and see how you digest it. i think they should start a comedy section for you and tater

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Originally Posted by mparkerfd20

Agreed. It's amazing to me that 2 people can watch the exact same thing and come to different conclusions. KTs decision making needs a LOT of work. A whole hell of a lot! There were tons of plays he left on the field last night with bad decisions. It comes with experience. He still has that 1 read then run mentality that young QBs have. The elite ones learn how to harness it and use their speed to their advantage. I watched him through HS and it was the same mindset. Not playing him more earlier this year was costly. But he wasn't ready to take the full load and still isn't and won't be for a few games next year probably. I just hope he puts in shit tons of work now that he's the man and makes up a lot of ground quick. I think he can and has the workhorse mentality to do so. He's a more athletic Chris Relf right now. Hopefully he can become more like Dak before next season.

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I disagree about one read and run. He sat in the pocket wayyyyyy too long many times last night. That's bad coaching to put him in that situation. Everything should have been designed to get the ball out, move the pocket, or him running more decisively. Lebby left way too much up to a raw true freshman QB. It's bad coaching period.

The pause when the go routes were covered is an issue that KT needs more work on. He stood there way too long before evacuating several times.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I tend to agree. Between cramping and a head injury, he probably should have stayed out. But the kid is a gamer. Going to have to teach him to either slide or learn how to run behind his pads though. He runs dead straight up.

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He definitely runs straight up and makes himself a HUGE target. He'll gain another 10-15 lbs and if he learns to run with pad level he will be hell to deal with trying to tackle.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

The head coach for Wake Forest challenged the 2nd down assuming KT was over the line of scrimmage. During that play he got up could barely stand and Lebby didn't call timeout or take him out during the review. It was only maybe one series or two afterwards he was limping and no where near ok. Also, if a player says they can go and not concussed coaches will let them play. How many times do you see players trying to come back in the game only to realize they can't play full speed after returning. KT just wouldn't stay down/out until he couldn't.

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That was mind blowing. I was screaming at the tv to take a timeout.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Why would we take a timeout during a review? Do you really think we weren't checking KT out during the review? If it wasn't for the review we probably put Luke in. And hell- wasn't that the TD drive where KT played his best all game when he threw that strike to SanFrisco?

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KT was lining up, limping badly and was going through his pre-snap procedure when WF challenged the call. Leb was going to let him snap it for sure. Dumb

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

He was coming to MSU regardless of Lebby. Seriously, how old are you? I'm curious.

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My age has nothing to do with this. How often do you manstrate?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

No it's hilarious because you wanted KT to be the QB the whole time because he was more mobile and now that he gets hurt running the ball you're mad at Lebby because he couldn't "protect him".

And you don't understand that this isn't 1998 anymore and there are injury protocols that have to be followed. And spare me- you were the one wondering why we didn't take a timeout during a review of a play.

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Preach!!!!

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

It's really sad that some of yall think Lebby was calling designed runs for KT. Some, yes. But KT pulled the ball down and ran a ton on his own.

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But but but 28 knows football!! Lmao!

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

He was coming to MSU regardless of Lebby. Seriously, how old are you? I'm curious.

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That is not technically true. I do still think he comes, but he was very much out on Kevin Barbay and his offense.

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Originally Posted by Pancho

The pause when the go routes were covered is an issue that KT needs more work on. He stood there way too long before evacuating several times.

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He was not ready. I tried telling people that the entire season. It never was meant to be a shot at him or I think he’s a bust or anything like that. I saw it with my own eyes when he was in high school and I had people who were at practice telling me the same thing. Right now he cannot process the speed of the game. So he tucks and runs more times than not.

It is not a knock on him that he was not prepared to play at this level in high school. I think C34 alluded to this as well, but his high school playcalling was extremely simplistic. You also could watch them in high school and realize he was one Reed and go. If his first read was not open, he was running. You cannot do that at this level and play 12 games.

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

I disagree about one read and run. He sat in the pocket wayyyyyy too long many times last night. That's bad coaching to put him in that situation. Everything should have been designed to get the ball out, move the pocket, or him running more decisively. Lebby left way too much up to a raw true freshman QB. It's bad coaching period.

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No it isnt. Its a young player with little experience not seeing the whole field. Not making correct pre snap reads. Not seeing guys open before they are. He has little instinct in the passing game.

He completed 48% of his passes vs Ole Miss. No amount of running is going to make up for that. All its going to do is get him injured.

He barely broke 50% completion this game. He had people open that he simply did not see. On his last sack, guy breaks through the LOS and 4 yards behind that guy is a wide open receiver. Standing there. And he did not see it.

Basically you guys are saying that KT is not ready

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

I disagree about one read and run. He sat in the pocket wayyyyyy too long many times last night. That's bad coaching to put him in that situation. Everything should have been designed to get the ball out, move the pocket, or him running more decisively. Lebby left way too much up to a raw true freshman QB. It's bad coaching period.

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Not really. Maybe I should have worded what I meant better. He knows what to do with one read and then it's panic, fight or flight. He is still too indecisive. It'll get better. The main issue is knowing what to do and to this point I don't think he's received the adequate coaching to get there.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

He was not ready. I tried telling people that the entire season. It never was meant to be a shot at him or I think he’s a bust or anything like that. I saw it with my own eyes when he was in high school and I had people who were at practice telling me the same thing. Right now he cannot process the speed of the game. So he tucks and runs more times than not.

It is not a knock on him that he was not prepared to play at this level in high school. I think C34 alluded to this as well, but his high school playcalling was extremely simplistic. You also could watch them in high school and realize he was one Reed and go. If his first read was not open, he was running. You cannot do that at this level and play 12 games.

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304 TY and 2 TDs is pretty good to not be ready. Can't imagine his numbers at LSU in 2027.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

But but but 28 knows football!! Lmao!

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I have more knowledge of football from high school than you have currently. Go play with your Christmas toys little guy.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

No it isnt. Its a young player with little experience not seeing the whole field. Not making correct pre snap reads. Not seeing guys open before they are. He has little instinct in the passing game.

He completed 48% of his passes vs Ole Miss. No amount of running is going to make up for that. All its going to do is get him injured.

He barely broke 50% completion this game. He had people open that he simply did not see. On his last sack, guy breaks through the LOS and 4 yards behind that guy is a wide open receiver. Standing there. And he did not see it.

Basically you guys are saying that KT is not ready

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Of course he's not ready to do what Lebby is asking him to do. Lebby had over a month to adjust the game plan to meet KTs current skill set and he didn't.

He seems to be fine but it was scary as hell. I swore his blew a knee or broke a leg. It?s seems like an ankle injury.

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

Of course he's not ready to do what Lebby is asking him to do. Lebby had over a month to adjust the game plan to meet KTs current skill set and he didn't.

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He isnt ready because of his passing game. And fixing that is not a 3 week deal. You can not adjust enough for that. It makes you one dimensional.

Thats exactly how WF played it. Run defense and attack the OL. A 50% passer will never win a lot of games.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Thats false. His injuries were not injuries. It was cramps. Try again.

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Holy ****.

The play where his head was slammed into the turf and he appeared to any rational person to be concussed, had nothing to do with cramps.

I swear we have the worst ****ing fans on the planet.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Holy ****.

The play where his head was slammed into the turf and he appeared to any rational person to be concussed, had nothing to do with cramps.

I swear we have the worst ****ing fans on the planet.

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But he wasn't. And thats not the play he was talking about.

KT is going to have to learn to play with a little less reckless abandon or he won't make it through a third of the season. He took a LOT of big hits last night. Lebby should have him practicing sliding as a skill to use to preserve his health. He is just not built thick enough to keep taking big blows over and over like he did last night.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

KT is going to have to learn to play with a little less reckless abandon or he won't make it through a third of the season. He took a LOT of big hits last night. Lebby should have him practicing sliding as a skill to use to preserve his health. He is just not built thick enough to keep taking big blows over and over like he did last night.

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I think it will naturally get better as he learns to pass. You could see last night he was deer in headlight if his read wasn?t there then he?d run. He gets up to 62% completion and running it just on occasional scrambles or designed runs where blocking scheme is setup he will be good. He was not ready this year and that is ok. Everyone knew it