This program is cursed. Just shut the whole place down.

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If I had to guess, 3 million bulk of that being Hubbard. Apparently Sean Jones Jr. is getting $200k. I bet Hubbard is right below $1mil. That is purely my guess.

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You're low on both. The roster is well well over 3 mil. Basketball is crazy. Even for the avg guys.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

You're low on both. The roster is well well over 3 mil. Basketball is crazy. Even for the avg guys.

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I've heard from a reliable source that it is way more than that. Like a great deal more. 7-9 million more. That's why I've been so pissed at our early season lack of success.

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You're low on both. The roster is well well over 3 mil. Basketball is crazy. Even for the avg guys.

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Not even close, it’s hard to really wrap your mind around it.

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If I had to guess, 3 million bulk of that being Hubbard. Apparently Sean Jones Jr. is getting $200k. I bet Hubbard is right below $1mil. That is purely my guess.

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Hubbard makes around 3MM by himself.

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Besides #1, the best lottery pick players top 10 are getting about 2 million according to reports and everything I have read. If you have inside info and knowledge within the athletic department and program then ok but if you don?t you are wrong.

How much is Hubbard getting?

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Kentucky's and UPig's NIL are more than $20MM

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Originally Posted by MoreCowbell

Besides #1, the best lottery pick players top 10 are getting about 2 million according to reports and everything I have read. If you have inside info and knowledge within the athletic department and program then ok but if you don?t you are wrong.

How much is Hubbard getting?

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What I?m trying to show is everything is way more costly and complex than folks can comprehend. It?s an absolute nightmare with no end in sight right now.

With almost zero return on investment, except bragging rights... it's not sustainable.

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With almost zero return on investment, except bragging rights... it's not sustainable.

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I think that this is a fallacy. This must to be looked as an investment. The confederates and Oxford are booming, millions and millions are pouring into the local economy and the university. You guys should visit the other schools in our league, the bammers just spent 100 million on a welcome center. The money is rolling in for the schools that were smart enough to get ahead of the changes and the ones who were already established. As far as sustainability, the unlimited portal doesn’t seem like it is, but the genie is out of the bottle, who knows where that goes.

We have multiple guys in the NFL that have signed record breaking contracts. They are the ones who could move the needle with our NIL. It's their money and they can do as they please, but if they got involved (and maybe they are) we could make major moves and become a major player. Dak,Cross, and Jones are 3 that I know have record contracts. Please let the football gods look over us and let our former players get involved more. We deserve it after years of torture yet we remained faithful!!

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Hubbard makes around 3MM by himself.

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Heard the same

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I think that this is a fallacy. This must to be looked as an investment. The confederates and Oxford are booming, millions and millions are pouring into the local economy and the university. You guys should visit the other schools in our league, the bammers just spent 100 million on a welcome center. The money is rolling in for the schools that were smart enough to get ahead of the changes and the ones who were already established. As far as sustainability, the unlimited portal doesn’t seem like it is, but the genie is out of the bottle, who knows where that goes.

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An obvious ROI for the college, town and local businesses. I was speaking to the rich donors that don't live in or around Starkville. Where's their ROI?

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An obvious ROI for the college, town and local businesses. I was speaking to the rich donors that don't live in or around Starkville. Where's their ROI?

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Do you not realize how many are invested locally and are invested in the foundation. The Hotel Avalon and adjoining properties are not happening without the investment of many. A couple of huge donors are very much involved. There are investors and land swaps going on all the time, that’s just here.

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Do you not realize how many are invested locally and are invested in the foundation. The Hotel Avalon and adjoining properties are not happening without the investment of many. A couple of huge donors are very much involved. There are investors and land swaps going on all the time, that’s just here.

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I'm sure you're right. I was just thinking of the wealthy friends I know, who just donate, buy suites, etc. They do their part, but donating $2M for a QB that could walk out the very next year... that's not sustainable. Maybe once or twice, then I'd be done.

So Hubbard making more than 90 percent of QBs this year?

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What I?m trying to show is everything is way more costly and complex than folks can comprehend. It?s an absolute nightmare with no end in sight right now.

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Gotcha thanks for insight

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I've heard from a reliable source that it is way more than that. Like a great deal more. 7-9 million more. That's why I've been so pissed at our early season lack of success.

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You have a good source. Most people would lose their minds on basketball amounts. Who is and isn't getting what. It's nuts

Then jans needs to stop investing so heavy in HS recruits.

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Then jans needs to stop investing so heavy in HS recruits.

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It more investing too much in the bottom end of the roster. Our hs investments have been reasonable imo.

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It more investing too much in the bottom end of the roster. Our hs investments have been reasonable imo.

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Probably so then. If we have to have guys 9-15 play much, we screwed anyway

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An obvious ROI for the college, town and local businesses. I was speaking to the rich donors that don't live in or around Starkville. Where's their ROI?

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Exactly. Paying top dollar for coaches and NIL is great for the school and town and is very much worth it economically, but for you average fan who doesn't live in Starkville or make it back to Starkville very often there's basically no return on investment other than bragging on Monday at the water cooler.

The fact that NIL got placed on the backs of the fans who didn't profit at all in the old system is wild.

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With almost zero return on investment, except bragging rights... it's not sustainable.

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Agree. For the few that appear to be winning, the law of averages will come back around and they will not sustain. All that the system has done is drive the prices up for the same players. Fans are poorer and players are richer. W & L balance out. Kinda like gambling. The house never loses long term, the gambler does.

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Agree. For the few that appear to be winning, the law of averages will come back around and they will not sustain. All that the system has done is drive the prices up for the same players. Fans are poorer and players are richer. W & L balance out. Kinda like gambling. The house never loses long term, the gambler does.

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Yes. And just like "professional" sports, the increased pay gets passed onto the fans via ticket prices, concessions, memorabilia...

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Agree. For the few that appear to be winning, the law of averages will come back around and they will not sustain. All that the system has done is drive the prices up for the same players. Fans are poorer and players are richer. W & L balance out. Kinda like gambling. The house never loses long term, the gambler does.

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Very well said!

Is it baseball season yet?

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

I think that this is a fallacy. This must to be looked as an investment. The confederates and Oxford are booming, millions and millions are pouring into the local economy and the university. You guys should visit the other schools in our league, the bammers just spent 100 million on a welcome center. The money is rolling in for the schools that were smart enough to get ahead of the changes and the ones who were already established. As far as sustainability, the unlimited portal doesn’t seem like it is, but the genie is out of the bottle, who knows where that goes.

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Excellent post, it is without a doubt a business at this point. I can see why university is hesitant to put more money into it if the return, at this point in time, is not there. Strike while the iron is hot not cold.