Any DC Rumors?

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Brent Pry is picking up a lot of steam. I feel pretty comfortable confirming now that we're decently far down the road with him. It would be a bit of a letdown if we can't get that one across the finish line.

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I figured we were down the road on getting someone if they are getting ready to announce Hutzler's dismissal.

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Originally Posted by TheRef

Is Pry still in Blacksburg at this time?

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I would guess so.

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Don't forget his love affair with Freeze and Corral. Hell, I thought Corral might have been his illegitimate son.

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If that were the case, Corral would have been the equipment manager.

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Originally Posted by TheRef

I think it's going to be more of a not do what Arnett did and hire assistants and position coaches before the DC. I think after we have a DC agreed to in principle there will be some open conversations. Jamar Chaney at Houston and Pernell McPhee at Michigan would be two of my first calls, especially with rumors that Turner is thinking about stepping back into either an off-field or retiring altogether.

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David Turner has coached his last game. He will be retiring.

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

There was a flight from Starkville to Blacksburg yesterday. It is probably nothing but interesting regardless

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Freight flight. But oddly enough it caused some of our media members and pretty connected guys on the other site to do some digging and found out we were pretty far down the road with Pry.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

David Turner has coached his last game. He will be retiring.

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His last three years here shouldn't diminish how good he was under both Sylvester Croom and Dan Mullen for this program. He was a great coach who I believe the modern game has passed him by.

David Turner the recruiter was one of the best finders of diamonds in the rough back in the day. Unfortunately the game and recruiting has passed him by, because he was still under the old impression that he could do "My way or the highway" type of recruiting and be perfectly honest with them.

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Originally Posted by KB21

His last three years here shouldn't diminish how good he was under both Sylvester Croom and Dan Mullen for this program. He was a great coach who I believe the modern game has passed him by.

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The modern game, more importantly recruiting in the NIL era, just passed him. He did great work for us from 07-09 and again from 13-15. He grinded his ass off in some recruitments (Fletcher, Pernell, Boyd, etc) in those early years and was not going to be outworked for Jeffrey Simmons.

Saw where Steve Robertson chimed in. He says it's a little early to say it's for certain and that he has a chance to stay at Virginia Tech under Franklin. That would just be odd to me. However, he says that there is another candidate whose name we know that will take it if offered. I'm only assuming that's Wilcox.

I think some coaches are waiting for the LSU domino to fall with Baker most likely going to Tulane as HC.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Saw where Steve Robertson chimed in. He says it's a little early to say it's for certain and that he has a chance to stay at Virginia Tech under Franklin. That would just be odd to me. However, he says that there is another candidate whose name we know that will take it if offered. I'm only assuming that's Wilcox.

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Why in the hell would he stay at the school that fired him?

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Why in the hell would he stay at the school that fired him?

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Wouldn't be awkward at all.**

Sounds like something MSU would do. LOL.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Why in the hell would he stay at the school that fired him?

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Yep. No matter how good of a relationship he has with Franklin, I just can't see a guy accepting a demotion from being head coach to being defensive coordinator at a program. That just creates a little too much potential internal conflict.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Saw where Steve Robertson chimed in. He says it's a little early to say it's for certain and that he has a chance to stay at Virginia Tech under Franklin. That would just be odd to me. However, he says that there is another candidate whose name we know that will take it if offered. I'm only assuming that's Wilcox.

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I will say this. Hutzler has handled this professionally so far. Be it moving on or be it changing responsibilities, he didn't Kiffin it up.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Saw where Steve Robertson chimed in. He says it's a little early to say it's for certain and that he has a chance to stay at Virginia Tech under Franklin. That would just be odd to me. However, he says that there is another candidate whose name we know that will take it if offered. I'm only assuming that's Wilcox.

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Yeah. I might be reading too much into his comment but it definitely sounds like we have another guy ahead of Pry according to him. I figured it was Wilcox or Armstrong.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Why in the hell would he stay at the school that fired him?

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He and Franklin go way back. But you still have think it would be odd that he stayed there.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

We have our own people on local radio lambasting our admin for not going after Muschamp.

People listen to this and think "What are we doing? We should be going after Muschamp!"

Our morons on the radio do us ZERO favors.

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I don't understand why they want him so bad. He hasn't coached in years. They might as well be clamoring for Jimbo Fisher for OC.

Bounds and his buddy at CFB Matrix Bartoo also thought Barbay was some offensive genius and praised our boosters for hiring him.

Come to think of it asking Hutzler to be our ST coach kind of sort of is like Virginia Tech asking Brent Pry to be their DC.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Come to think of it asking Hutzler to be our ST coach kind of sort of is like Virginia Tech asking Brent Pry to be their DC.

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Not really. You still have a coordinator title at that role. You're just coordinating another group. Whereas, Pry would be going from HC with total control of everything in the program to only one part. It would be wild if a guy takes ANOTHER job from the same people who hired him to run the program but said he sucked at that.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Come to think of it asking Hutzler to be our ST coach kind of sort of is like Virginia Tech asking Brent Pry to be their DC.

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And we just watched Durkin stay at Auburn.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Saw where Steve Robertson chimed in. He says it's a little early to say it's for certain and that he has a chance to stay at Virginia Tech under Franklin. That would just be odd to me. However, he says that there is another candidate whose name we know that will take it if offered. I'm only assuming that's Wilcox.

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I think it would be Armstrong. Wilcox made good money at Cal. I could see Armstrong jumping at a chance to get back into the SEC.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I think it would be Armstrong. Wilcox made good money at Cal. I could see Armstrong jumping at a chance to get back into the SEC.

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He's on the list, but he's definitely in the second tier. The first tier is Pry and Wilcox.

Here is a thought.

What DC can bring the most needs with him. Is the Pry, Wilcox, Armstrong...etc.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Here is a thought.

What DC can bring the most needs with him. Is the Pry, Wilcox, Armstrong...etc.

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I don't really know what you're considering needs. If you're talking players then none of them are going to really bring a ton of SEC talent with them outside of a player here and there.

If you're considering coaching a need or scheme a need then that depends on what scheme you want to see.

If I hear a DC say that he doesn't have an identity for his defense and that he does a "Multiple or flexible" style of defense, I might have an aneurysm.

We need a DC that can talk people into wanting to play for him. Thats all it comes down to

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We need a DC that can talk people into wanting to play for him. Thats all it comes down to

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Nuff Said. Need players above all. You can’t scheme around getting your ass whipped at the point. You can have players where they are supposed to be all day but if they can’t make the play it’s all for naught.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We need a DC that can talk people into wanting to play for him. Thats all it comes down to

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Amazing that Saban was good but then got great when he started stacking #1 recruiting classes one after the other. The NFL didn't suit him because you don't have all the first round picks in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

Amazing that Saban was good but then got great when he started stacking #1 recruiting classes one after the other. The NFL didn't suit him because you don't have all the first round picks in the NFL.

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This all day. Saban was one of if not the best DC in college. However- anybody could have coached those guys. It's easy to coach a CB that can lock down a WR. Let Saban coach guys like #4 for us at CB. Suddenly people will have their doubts about him.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Nuff Said. Need players above all. You can’t scheme around getting your ass whipped at the point. You can have players where they are supposed to be all day but if they can’t make the play it’s all for naught.

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This is why I keep bringing the tackling in space point. Good defenders can tackle in space. It's just flat out talent. That's not really something that's coached. As we have watched for 2 years now- we cant tackle in space very well at all. Untill we get those guys at LB and in the Secondary- defense is going to suffer

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Originally Posted by Coach34

This all day. Saban was one of if not the best DC in college. However- anybody could have coached those guys. It's easy to coach a CB that can lock down a WR. Let Saban coach guys like #4 for us at CB. Suddenly people will have their doubts about him.

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Having lock down corners is what made them able to play the cover 7 stuff. Not just anyone can run that well.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

This is why I keep bringing the tackling in space point. Good defenders can tackle in space. It's just flat out talent. That's not really something that's coached. As we have watched for 2 years now- we cant tackle in space very well at all. Untill we get those guys at LB and in the Secondary- defense is going to suffer

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It can absolutely be coached. I think it?s like everything else, if that guy is better than me he is just better, but I can still play with great technique and give myself a chance. that?s the point of the whole game

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

It can absolutely be coached. I think it?s like everything else, if that guy is better than me he is just better, but I can still play with great technique and give myself a chance. that?s the point of the whole game

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If you are teaching pursuit angles and such to SEC players you lack talent.

Rosebowl stated that Pry will make a decision on his future today. I guess if Pry turns us down we pivot to Armstrong.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Rosebowl stated that Pry will make a decision on his future today. I guess if Pry turns us down we pivot to Armstrong.

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That's the consensus that I'm hearing. There's a few that think we'd pivot back to Wilcox, and there's a couple of people that would know that say that, but the general consensus is that Armstrong is probably next up.

I think Wilcox is being deliberate about where / if he coaches next year. We was HC at Cal for a while and doesn't have to rush anything.

Interesting. I said in another thread, I think I prefer Armstrong.

Armstrong is also from York, AL, which is about an hour and a half from Starkville.

Robertson?s latest update says that they aren?t optimistic that Pry takes it.