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11-28-2025, 07:51 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Anyone hearing anything about Will Muschamp as the DC?

And no, Bo Bounds isn't my source.

Will is done coaching and calling plays. He also would not come and replace a guy who was his STC at USCe
11-28-2025, 07:54 PM
shoeless joe

Everything OP listed was obvious after game 6 of the season.

Lebbys offense can work. He needs an OC. We need help in the trenches. We need to upgrade some coordinator/position coaches. I’d be all aboard once that happens. But results are needed next season. Results in conference.
11-28-2025, 07:58 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Anyone hearing anything about Will Muschamp as the DC?

And no, Bo Bounds isn't my source.

Shit I hope not. I haven't heard any names yet. But don't like that one.
11-28-2025, 08:04 PM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Like I said, I do not think it gets to the firing point, because I do not believe those conversations have even occurred. But today was not good, and we have some big money boosters who would rather go 1-11 and beat OM than 11-1 with a loss to them.

Not only 3 straight losses but 4 of the last 5 and 3 straight losses in OUR Home Field! The first 3 game streak by the Rebs since 2002-2004. Just unacceptable no matter what your beginning of the season goals are!
11-28-2025, 08:05 PM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Keenum and Selmon ain't going to do anything expect talk "tuf" knowing good and well another year of bad football is headed our way. They're both clueless and Lebby....is just Lebby.

But we will win some baseball games dad gum it!

Thank goodness for baseball!
11-28-2025, 08:31 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Will is done coaching and calling plays. He also would not come and replace a guy who was his STC at USCe

Those are some good points. I think we're in the wish list phase of changes.

We'll probably end up with Joe Jon Finley, Golding or some other DC like the guy at Wazzu, and an up and coming Sun Belt STC.
11-28-2025, 08:40 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Like I said, I do not think it gets to the firing point, because I do not believe those conversations have even occurred. But today was not good, and we have some big money boosters who would rather go 1-11 and beat OM than 11-1 with a loss to them.

I?ll take anything to piss the money guys off and make them give.
11-28-2025, 08:43 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

I?ll take anything to piss the money guys off and make them give.

They are, that’s who was meeting with the AD. I can confirm what SVS is saying now.
11-28-2025, 08:47 PM
Brobi-wan

Hell yeah! I’m all here for getting out of complacency
11-28-2025, 08:50 PM
Bdawg

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11-28-2025, 08:52 PM
Quaoarsking

Is there a sitting P4 head coach we could plausibly poach? Dickert? Maybe Fritz?

Any chance Sitake would leave his alma mater for an SEC job?
11-28-2025, 08:54 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

They are, that’s who was meeting with the AD. I can confirm what SVS is saying now.

Shame we are reactive and not proactive
11-28-2025, 08:55 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Is there a sitting P4 head coach we could plausibly poach? Dickert? Maybe Fritz?

Any chance Sitake would leave his alma mater for an SEC job?

HC is not part of the equation, likely completely changing defensive side of the ball.
11-28-2025, 08:59 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

HC is not part of the equation, likely completely changing defensive side of the ball.

It just needs to happen. Not sure it’s all Huztler fault but some of our position coaches need to go. Hutz didn’t need to be learning on the job along with a new head coach. We needed some experience to go with Lebby
11-28-2025, 09:00 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

HC is not part of the equation, likely completely changing defensive side of the ball.

That's silly. If you trust a guy to be the head coach, don't micromanage him. Let him make the personnel decisions and live with the consequences.
11-28-2025, 09:00 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

It just needs to happen. Not sure it’s all Huztler fault but some of our position coaches need to go. Hutz didn’t need to be learning on the job along with a new head coach. We needed some experience to go with Lebby

My biggest issue with the defense this year was we got worse as the year went along.

That and I have no idea why in the hell they let Turner come back.
11-28-2025, 09:02 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That's silly. If you trust a guy to be the head coach, don't micromanage him. Let him make the personnel decisions and live with the consequences.

Well they are paying for it and are trying to be just a hair proactive.
11-28-2025, 09:03 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That's silly. If you trust a guy to be the head coach, don't micromanage him. Let him make the personnel decisions and live with the consequences.

Things are much more organizational now. Gone are the days of Bear Bryant running the entire show.
11-28-2025, 09:03 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Well they are paying for it and are trying to be just a hair proactive.

Thank God
11-28-2025, 09:05 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Well they are paying for it and are trying to be just a hair proactive.

If Lebby wants to change DCs and is asking them to pay for the guy he wants, then fine. But if Lebby wants to keep Hutzler, then he should be able to do that. It's just that Lebby and Hutz will both suffer the consequences if he can't cut it next year.

I don't like the idea of boosters forcing a coach to do it their way. Pick the coach and let him do it how he wants to.
11-28-2025, 09:08 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If Lebby wants to change DCs and is asking them to pay for the guy he wants, then fine. But if Lebby wants to keep Hutzler, then he should be able to do that. It's just that Lebby and Hutz will both suffer the consequences if he can't cut it next year.

I don't like the idea of boosters forcing a coach to do it their way. Pick the coach and let him do it how he wants to.

There is a real world that you are missing out on.
11-28-2025, 09:15 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

There is a real world that you are missing out on.

If Lebby has to be told to change DCs, then how can anyone funding the program have any faith in him?
11-28-2025, 09:23 PM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If Lebby has to be told to change DCs, then how can anyone funding the program have any faith in him?

It if the financiers tell the AD to tell Lebby to fire the defensive staff or they withhold funding the department, and then the AD tells them to stick it where the sun don?t shine, we will be looking for an AD and a new Coaching Staff!
11-28-2025, 09:24 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If Lebby has to be told to change DCs, then how can anyone funding the program have any faith in him?

Dude the black and white world you are searching for doesn’t exist. It’s all shades of gray and that’s the way it is. You have a hard on for the guy and that is entirely your purgative.
11-28-2025, 09:24 PM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

It if the financiers tell the AD to tell Lebby to fire the defensive staff or they withhold funding the department, and then the AD tells them to stick it where the sun don?t shine, we will be looking for an AD and a new Coaching Staff!

As it should be.
11-28-2025, 09:33 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Why would we be bringing in Kendall Briles if we're going to fire Lebby?

The only way I would fire Lebby would be if someone like Saban was begging for our job. I highly doubt that's the case.

We have always been the apple of Saban's eye!
11-28-2025, 09:39 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Like I said, I do not think it gets to the firing point, because I do not believe those conversations have even occurred. But today was not good, and we have some big money boosters who would rather go 1-11 and beat OM than 11-1 with a loss to them.

Well, that's ****ing stupid. 11-1 we'd be in the GD playoffs...like OM.
11-28-2025, 09:45 PM
Brobi-wan

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If Lebby has to be told to change DCs, then how can anyone funding the program have any faith in him?

Keith Carter gave KIFFIN a time frame and said “by this date.” You think we aren’t telling Lebby who to hire?
11-28-2025, 09:47 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Well, that's ****ing stupid. 11-1 we'd be in the GD playoffs...like OM.

I mean it starts at the top with a president who would MUCH RATHER beat OM than have a good season.And I mean fair or not, we have a lot of boosters that grew up where beating OM was the season. We were both usually around the same record so that is how a successful season was judged.
11-28-2025, 09:49 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I mean it starts at the top with a president who would MUCH RATHER beat OM than have a good season.And I mean fair or not, we have a lot of boosters that grew up where beating OM was the season. We were both usually around the same record so that is how a successful season was judged.

Devil's advocate here. How much better would 2014 and 2015 for that matter have been with an Egg Bowl victory?
11-28-2025, 09:53 PM
PGHBulldogBG

I will fully admit I might not fully get the Ole Miss hate because I don?t live in the area, but I would rather win 9 or 10 games like we did in 2024,2015,2017 and 2022 than beat ole Miss and be terrible
11-28-2025, 09:54 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

I will fully admit I might not fully get the Ole Miss hate because I don?t live in the area, but I would rather win 9 or 10 games like we did in 2024,2015,2017 and 2022 than beat ole Miss and be terrible

My preference is to have an 9-10 win season and win the Egg Bowl. It has happened before. 1980, 1999, 2010, 2022
11-28-2025, 09:58 PM
HoopsDawg

Its simple but not easy. Get a better staff and better players and we will win. Lebby isnt perfect but he is good enough to win with equal or close to equal talent.
11-28-2025, 10:12 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Dude we aren't firing Lebby. Good grief. It's not remotely gonna happen. Stop.

He literally said... "I am not saying that we are firing Lebby or that those types conversations have even been broached" WTF??
11-28-2025, 10:27 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Devil's advocate here. How much better would 2014 and 2015 for that matter have been with an Egg Bowl victory?

In 14 you finish 11-1 and are either the first team out of the playoffs or the last team in

In 15 you finish 9-3 and go to the Sugar Bowl.

Those types years are kind of what I was talking about with the years OM and us were the same, that is how we judged a successful season.
11-28-2025, 10:30 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

My preference is to have an 9-10 win season and win the Egg Bowl. It has happened before. 1980, 1999, 2010, 2022

Look how spread out those years are, 42 between number 1 and 4... sad and pathetic. OM just did that in 2023, 2024 and 2025.
11-28-2025, 10:31 PM
Lance Harbor

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

If we're making these staff changes, count me enthusiastically in for one more year for Lebby. Need to make sure the DC, DL, and OL coach hires are all top notch. Where's Hev nowadays? Throw an OL Brinks truck at him to get him back. I don't care if he doesn't want to recruit, the sumbitch can flat coach an OL.

This is peak insanity
11-28-2025, 10:52 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Lance Harbor

This is peak insanity

Man, Hev had some damn good lines. He was an asshole to players and fans alike but he could field an OL and we never had bad OLs with him. His players also would run through a brick wall for him. Hell he took a line of an MAIS walk on, 2 MAIS 3 stars, a 3 star from Louisiana, and a 3 star from Mobile and they were one of the best lines in the country.
11-28-2025, 11:30 PM
War Machine Dawg

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Man, Hev had some damn good lines. He was an asshole to players and fans alike but he could field an OL and we never had bad OLs with him. His players also would run through a brick wall for him. Hell he took a line of an MAIS walk on, 2 MAIS 3 stars, a 3 star from Louisiana, and a 3 star from Mobile and they were one of the best lines in the country.

Exactly. He made walk-on Ben Beckwith an All-SEC caliber player. Games are won and lost in the trenches. An OL coach the quality of Hev is worth 1-2 wins. I don't care how many people he pisses off. That's pretty much every good offensive line coach ever. They're a different breed.
11-28-2025, 11:37 PM
Maverick91

According to SECrant as of last year. There is a photo of Heb in a Lowe's uniform working. If that is true kinda crazy.

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