The Vast Difference Between 6-6 & 5-7 - MSU Football 2025

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Its actually 26.9 in SEC games and thats tied for 7th in the SEC- top half of the conference

That is also 3rd best the last 10 years and one of the best in school history

You are watching one of the best offenses our school has ever had no matter how u spin it

https://cfbstats.com/2025/leader/911...09/sort01.html

and to pile on- only 4 other SEC teams have scored more TD's in SEC play than we have. Helluva offensive year for us and Shapen

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You're correct coach. And when it's clicking it's a fun offense to watch

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Its actually 26.9 in SEC games and thats tied for 7th in the SEC- top half of the conference

That is also 3rd best the last 10 years and one of the best in school history

You are watching one of the best offenses our school has ever had no matter how u spin it

https://cfbstats.com/2025/leader/911...09/sort01.html

and to pile on- only 4 other SEC teams have scored more TD's in SEC play than we have. Helluva offensive year for us and Shapen

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Incredible considering our Oline.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Incredible considering our Oline.

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100%...and this is why I want to insult our fans and call them dumbasses. Most of them are mad because KT isnt the QB just like they were mad Tyler Russell wasnt the QB when he wasnt ready and mad Todd Jordan wasnt the QB when he wasnt near ready and on and on

Lebby is not a dumbass- he is actually proven to be one of the best offensive coaches in the SEC in spite of his O-Line. He has done a helluva job. We have to get better in the trenches- thats the bottom line

If we go 5-7, and we will, unless Lane bolts and i think he's staying; I expect about 40K maroon crowds in big conference games next year. I think the only game where we had 50k State fans in attendance was against Arizona State.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

If we go 5-7, and we will, unless Lane bolts and i think he's staying; I expect about 40K maroon crowds in big conference games next year. I think the only game where we had 50k State fans in attendance was against Arizona State.

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My excitement for 2026 will be based on who we buy in the trenches this offseason- has nothing to do with what happens this season. We have to win Free Agency

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Originally Posted by Coach34

My excitement for 2026 will be based on who we buy in the trenches this offseason- has nothing to do with what happens this season. We have to win Free Agency

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The most important money we can spend is on a analytics/scouting staff who can find the undervalued linemen in the portal that everyone else misses on.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

The most important money we can spend is on a analytics/scouting staff who can find the undervalued linemen in the portal that everyone else misses on.

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I was thinking something along this line too. I think it would be better for us, since we need so much depth, to go get guys that are undervalued or very solid as there position. In other words.. if we loaded up on some high 3 star guys. A few of those could really turn out to be playmakers. Instead of getting just a handful of 4 stars where some of those may play not even pan out. Im just using stars as a reference on what the point I was trying to make. Is it better to 1 mill for 8-9 3 star guys or 1 mill for 4 4 stars? Numbers are just for reference. Depth and talent killed usbthis year. We need both

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

An upset would be huge for 2036.. especially if KT is the guy who leads us there. I feel like him having a good game or leading us to the gane winning drive would really kick start fan support going into next year. Atleast I would be pumped about it if he was the guy who lead the charge.

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I think any win no matter who the QB is would be good for us. Our fans need to stop making it about Shapen vs. KT. There's nothing productive about it.

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

I was thinking something along this line too. I think it would be better for us, since we need so much depth, to go get guys that are undervalued or very solid as there position. In other words.. if we loaded up on some high 3 star guys. A few of those could really turn out to be playmakers. Instead of getting just a handful of 4 stars where some of those may play not even pan out. Im just using stars as a reference on what the point I was trying to make. Is it better to 1 mill for 8-9 3 star guys or 1 mill for 4 4 stars? Numbers are just for reference. Depth and talent killed usbthis year. We need both

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I don't know how much stars really matter when you're talking about the portal. We should be able to use PFF analytics to grade players much more accurately than some recruiting guru.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think any win no matter who the QB is would be good for us. Our fans need to stop making it about Shapen vs. KT. There's nothing productive about it.

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I didn't mean it the way you took it.. I mean it as a positive. I guess I'm trying to say the fans want to see him play and if he does and wins.. it will give fans that much more to look forward to. Double win for fans. I'm not making it a Shapen vs KT thing right now.