At least the season expectations are already set for the season in game 2. It?s going to be last year all over againQuote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
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At least the season expectations are already set for the season in game 2. It?s going to be last year all over againQuote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I'm more worried about the defense. They're blitzing our DQuote:
Originally Posted by Thick
After watching that half, I would take a tattoo of your choice for the same results. This looks like missing the NIT level ballQuote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
Just to compare/contrast, Bama had 54 points with their three guard lineup against #5 St Johns Saturday. Our three guards produced 19 points in the first half.
Where is Walker and Epps?
Did Jans miss some evaluations? I hope this is just a bad game
We didnt look great against N. Alabama the other night either, I dont think its just a bad gameQuote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Too early to tell, but I'm not confident we'll be okQuote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
-18 at half. Let's just win this second half
I don?t think it?s too early to tellQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Sixteen turnovers. Sheesh.
Yeah, it is. He's playing 11 a ton so Jans obviously thinks he has some potential. Lots of new faces still coming together. Epps is out tonight. And last of all, this IsU team looks pretty goodQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Over half of IS points are in the paint. This team is going to take a lot of ass whippings this year. Baseball cannot get here fast enough!!!
It looks much worse than last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
They hit us with a moving screen like 3/5 possessions
I?m not willing to throw in the towel on the season in game 2 against #16. But seems to be a pretty consistent theme with Jans teams of playing from behind in the 2nd half and being on the bubble of making the tournament.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Pretty athletic play there, achor
They look good because we have not blocked out, we throw it right to them and they have over 30 plus pints in the paint bc our defense sucks!!Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And they're long as hell, shoot well, drive well. They're #16 for a reason. We're unranked with good reason, tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Thick
No doubt this is concerning. We have upperclassmen, against a top 20 team and we're not even competitive thus far.
We're not small though.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Im able to evaluate the players beyond just looking at the results. But if Epps comes back that?s a degree of hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Hot take...I obviously like 12, but our offense the way its constructed isn't very good unless he's dropping 40 every night. I kinda hoped he moved on after last season so we could get more balanced and force Jans to develop some semblance of something else...
While true, they returned 3/5 starters and a starter from Virginia.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
You said 11 was good/great the other night, and he was absolutely horrible tonight. The sample is too smallQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Understand, but eighteen turnovers as a team and 29 points out of a three guard lineup.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Thats not a hot take, just a horrible take.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
No one is saying we're good. I'm worried. All I'm saying is it's way too early to say what we have 1 way or the otherQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Ok, guru...Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I said 11 had potential. I never said he was great.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The bottom line is we haven't had enough guard play with Jans. Ball handling, ball movement and shooting are the problems consistently with his teams
You just said you wished Hubbard had moved on. You dont have to be a guru to know that?s a stupid statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I said hes our only scoring option...and if hes not lights out we lose. And him being undersized and poor defensively compounds the issue. Obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
The smu game at home is when I think we will know whether this team has a shot this season. That gives them 2 cupcakes and a decent team to gel against
It is early, BUT defense is all about getting after it, hustle, energy, staying in position defensively, and the desire to force your will on the opponent. Jans and staff has a lot a work to do on both ends of the court!
Definitely too early to say what we have but obviously we didn't come to show what we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Jones 5 TO
Hubbard 7 TO
Warren 4 TO
3 of our few returning players are killing us
15 is pretty disappointing.
I love the optimism. We are not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Ali in the game