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Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Coaching matters less than ever probably. Our general problem isn't our coaches. We have improved and we scored 21 points on a top 5 team with a freshman QB playing half the game. Right now Lebby's offense is ahead of where Dan's was at the same point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rejlector84sports
Our problem is we need more players and we need better players. The reason why we are better this year than last year is because our players are better. But we still need more.
That's why Saban was so good at Alabama. He had the best players. When he was with the Dolphins he sucked because the players weren't good relatively speaking in the NFL. Bill Walsh didn't become Bill Walsh until Joe Montana, Jerry Rice and Ronnie Lott showed up. And look at Bellichick's record with the Browns. He gets Tom Brady and all of a sudden he figured it out? Not a coincidence. Had some other really good players too like Welker, Woolfork, Seau, Rodney Harrison, Moss, etc.
Moorhead was the top OC because he had a guy named Saquon Barkley running the ball for him.
So our path to being what we want to be is simple- we must acquire better players which is something that MSU fans have historically been resistant to doing. If Ole Miss and Vanderbilt can do it- so can MSU.
You had such a good post going until you ended it here. Both those schools have way more money than we do. This is the Era of buying a roster and we dont have the greenbacks the rest of the SEC doesQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We do. We just do not have the commitment and buy in they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Maybe not Vanderbilt but we have money and we have enough to improve from where we are now. For MSU it's a buy in problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
1000% ToddQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I hate analytics. It removes the feel of the game, who's in who's out. I wish they would have never become a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Never have with Mississippi but you see Candy stepping up and throwing money to be good. I never in my life thought I would witness Candy having better skill people than 2/3 of the SECQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
A lot of that is Kill brought Pavia and Stowers. They are both REALLY GOOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
agree. It made me quit watching MLB baseball. I've watched 3 games since the Cubs won the WS. All of them are when I took my kids to watch the Rangers in DallasQuote:
Originally Posted by Maverick91
Yeah but they got alot more than just those 2 and I expect them to buy another QB in that mold this offseasonQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We have two billionaires that refuse to give to athletics. One billionaire at Texas Tech decided to go all in on football and they are the #7 team in the country.
The older people I talk to through work think we are going to put the genie back in the bottle and this NIL thing is just a fad. They are absolutely clueless on how modern college sports operates. They are stuck in 1995. They are adamant they are not giving money to buy players. They think we should be recruiting the players that play for pride, the love of State and not the love of money. Again, totally clueless on how modern sports operates.
Yeah- tell them they are clueless morons. We have kids making business decisions in HS on Friday nights.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Our ****ing kicker that is signing with A&M in December is one of the top kickers in the country. He ran away from making a tackle on a KO return for a TD because he didnt want to risk getting hurt. It makes me ****ing sick
Here's the problem with analytics- baseball fan speaking here- a lot of those stats are based off of a lot of data. The issue is it's not that cut and dried. Going for it on fourth down against Georgia and Georgia State in that situation are two different animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick91
Now, in Lebby's defense it did look like the play was there and was open and we made a bad throw. But I still personally did not like going for it because we were down and a field goal would have made it a seven point game.
And taking the punt/offense BS where we jumped offsides and gave them another TD it would have been a two possession game with the field goal and ended up being a three possession game.
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yes- he could have literally stopped the guy from returning his kickoff that he mishit because he can kick it into the end zone every time- but instead of closing it down with the other guy and making the tackle he drifted back into the center of the field to open up the gap even more. He ran like a girl- it was patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Good luck with that A&M
I'll hijack the thread and say why is it even legal for a team to do that? Oklahoma's play to have a player secretly on the field scoring a TD was banned (not called, unfortunately) because it was considered an unsportsmanlike trick. Why isn't Georgia's fakeout mass substitution also banned?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Analytaly [sp] kickers score a lot of points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick91
NFL History - Points Leaders
Leaders: Touchdowns | Scoring | Rush | Rush TDs | Receiving | Pass Yards | Pass Comp | Pass TDs | Interceptions | Sacks
LeadersSuper Bowl WinnersSuper Bowl MVPs
Points Leaders
RK PLAYER PTS
1 Adam Vinatieri 2,673
2 Morten Andersen 2,544
3 Gary Anderson 2,434
4 Jason Hanson 2,150
5 John Carney 2,062
6 Matt Stover 2,004
7 George Blanda 2,002
8 Jason Elam 1,983
9 John Kasay 1,970
10 Robbie Gould 1,961
11 Mason Crosby 1,939
12 Sebastian Janikowski 1,913
13 Stephen Gostkowski 1,875
14 MATT PRATER 1,869
15 Phil Dawson 1,847
16 NICK FOLK 1,780
17 Justin Tucker 1,775
18 Matt Bryant 1,758
19 Norm Johnson 1,736
20 David Akers 1,721
Well yeah obviously. My statement is worst case, which is already meaning we met expectations for this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I will go as far as saying if we beat Mizzou we are going to win the Egg Bowl and if we lose, we may lose the Egg Bowl by 3 scores.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
They want to recruit John Christian Taylor over at Oak Hill Academy. He is 5’10 and runs a 5.3 40 but they go to church with his grandfather and he comes from a good family that loves Mississippi State. That is who they want playing for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I see the latter, we could beat Mizzou and then expectations are high (see today) and we lose by 20. But yeah my original point is we could lose next week and the egg and it?s still a good season based on expectations for the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
This is so true! And he says "yes sir" and "no sir".Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And he has zero D1 or D2 offers, but dadgum it, he's got heart and plays his butt off for four quarters.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Sure, but we're going to have all new starters which may sound good, but it's new learning, and new chemistry. No continuity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
So does everybody else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Mississippi has a new QB and new starting TB
Georgia's QB started at the end of the season due to injury
Bama's QB is a new starter
Texas Tech spent $30MM and bought a new team
college football is all about new rosters now
Perhaps when compared to pre-season expectations but it quickly became clear that state had the ability to compete so I think it’s ok for expectations to change. State rattles off 4 straight wins and plays blow for blow against TN. State has 5 wins and 3 close losses due to decent coaching by Lebby (but you could argue we barely beat the worst SEC team this year by 3 after they wracked up almost 200 yards of penalty yards and beat ASU on a crazy fluke play). You could also say State is 5-5 and not 8-2 because of lebby’s coaching. If State ends 6-6 then they had a good season. If 5 wins is it then Lebby will 100% be on the hot seat next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
I dont know about a "hot seat" but Lebby will be absolutely expected to go bowling in Y3
So we can afford to buy 25-30 or so transfer players that can start and make us better than this year? I just don't see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Of course. See Revenue Sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
We have to. That is today's college footballQuote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
We really only have two problems as I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
1. Our offensive and defensive lines suck. I can give Loadholt a pass because of injuries and the fact he came in late. That said I have no idea why Turner is still around. He doesn't like the portal and he has missed on literally every Mississippi defensive line recruit since he came back.
2. Our schedule is absolute bullshit. The SEC did us dirty. And yes, I know it's the SEC and etc. but our schedule is almost all ranked teams at home and our easy games are on the road. Our schedule next year isn't easy but it's a lot more manageable than our schedule this year. Talent wise we are probably a 7-8 win team with a better schedule instead of a 5-6 win team.
My point is we're very close and if Kamario continues to improve and we improve along the lines and take advantage of all of the coaching changes we can turn around and improve pretty quickly. Not sure if that means getting 25-30 new players or not because that seems a little high to me but it might not be. At any rate we can do it.
White helmet curse!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinto
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Originally Posted by Pinto
Both of these things can?t be true. 3 games is 25% of the entire season. You can?t cough up 1/4th of your games and be considered ?damn good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinto
We may go bowling to a meaningless bowl even at 5-7 if there aren't enough teams at 6-6 and above to fill them. Some teams will decline as they now lose $ to go. Portal player$ will opt out of playing due to injury fears and looking for their next contract. The "we need the extra practices" argument no longer holds as you are flipping the team now every season. If not a CFC game, bowls no longer matter except to fill ESPN time slots and air time. Only the most hardcore fans go now to sit in a 50% full stadium. JMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Disagree GD. Every extra rep Kamario gets makes him better. Those bowl practices are like a mini camp for the players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Have y'all checked the offer sheets of the majority of our 22 commits for the 2026 recruiting class, ranked #48 in the nation? Very close to this description for many. It's very concerning.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
See that point, but probably will be throwing to totally new WR's by the next season. I was mainly thinking of meshing the next year's returning players closer to being a team. I forgot reps to up and coming players as there seem to be so few developed in this portal world.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
We will lose the Egg Bowl by waaaaaaay more than 3 scores. We have a little glimmer of hope and Ole Miss wants nothing more than to slam that door completely shut. This program is cooked until our boosters decide to go all in on football. They won?t, though, because baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yep. We go through this every time we climb up that 25 to 35 range. It happened with Mullen,, it happened with Leach. A team in that range will lose by multiple scores to a top 5 team more often than not. And in the SEC, we usually play multiple top 5 teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinto