We look like s***!
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We look like s***!
Easy now folks. Look beyond the superficial. There's some real foundation here.
We cant shoot. Thats not going away. Jans was not comfortable coaching an offensive team last year. My fear was that he over corrected. It looks like my fear was warranted.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
That white dude is a poor man's Micheal Ignerski
I like McGhee.
We have the foundation to not be as reliant on guard shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
You have to have great guard play to make tournament and advance. Hopefully Epps is just having a bad night.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Jones needs to quit shooting threes
Balance is a much more sound foundation. Ask Alabama the last couple of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Good Lord we can't shoot for shit
Yes. Disappointing we're not seeing him take a next step. But keep in mind it's one game.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
without Hubbard this team would suck!
Well we still suck at 3s.
Cause he is a 90% FT shooter. But he is 6 - 15 from the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
11 has potential.
But in the past it would be a three point game. We're up fourteen with 3:00 plus left. We're not as reliant on perimeter shooting with this group. We have size to overcome a lackluster night from outside and guard shooting can come from inside the circle. This is a GOOD sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Well our D is still stifling
We may end up covering the spread.
Covered by 1/2 pointQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Missed it by .5Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Yes and usually Josh would have been 6-20 at the 3s.. Glad he is going to the basket more.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
So...notvso bad?***
There were some disappointing things but 11 and McGhee looked good. Hubbard looks even better. Fleming was better than I expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Its hard to really tell how good or bad we are. I do like McGhee, he can be that guy next to Hubbard. Epps didnt impress me much, I know its only one game but his style of play in general didn't impress me tonight, hopefully that changes. We do have some size which I like. Its going to take several games to really know what we have or dont have. Unfortunately we have #16 Iowa State coming up
Still not sure Shawn Jones needs to be playing 27 minutes. He played the 2nd most behind Hubbard
Nineteen point first game win. Noncon yes but we did see glimpses of what can be. We have SIZE. Jans just needs a little more time to settle into a rotation. Monday against Iowa State will allow him to zero in on that even more. Early returns are VERY encouraging.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Math isn't your strong point is it? Try 24pt win.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Yes Jones is a question mark early. We'll see if it's a one game anomaly or if he becomes a solid contributor.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
Jones is our veteran glue guy. He plays hard and does a lot of dirty work. Get used to him playing 27 min a game
LOL!! The MSU MBA really didn't prioritize math skills!! But seriously just posted with 1:40 left and didn't update the final. But let's stay on point. The relevant message is still the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
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Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
There are meds to help with premature issues??!!??Quote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
Davis Flemming looked really good too. He blocked and altered several shots, had a few buckets and rebounded. He surprised me
I get that and to his credit he does play his butt off and will defend and attack the basket. But he just misses so many shots, he shot 30% from the field, 20% from 3 and missed both of his free throws. Im not saying he shouldn't be playing because he does some good things at times, but he just hasn't been great offensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
That said he averaged 19 mpg last season, 19 to 27 is a big jump. Once some of these other guys get comfortable his minutes should drop some but he will definitely be on the court as he should.
We went to the game. Jans tightened up his rotation big time in the second half. We went from one point up at half to win by 24. The European guy had seven points and 12 rebounds. The seven-footer looked good. As for Epps, in the postgame Jans said that he suffered a concussion against Houston and missed about 8 days. Warren looked to have really stepped up from his freshman year. McGhee looked very good on offense. Jones is a glue guy much like Cam, but I don't think he needs 27 minutes a game, and he took too many threes. As Jans tightens his rotation much like early-season games last year, I think this team has real potential. JMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
Hey old Ed uses old math with a abacus and slide rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
I am almost that old! LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
North Alabama is predicted to win the ASUN and went 24-11 last year. Yall get too caught up in how bad these mid majors are vs sec football but they can play basketball and compete.
About what was expected last night. That's a good team that will probably win their conference going away. A few of things:
1. Hubbard was Hubbard. I thought he played great and the biggest thing....NO TOs.
2. Our 3 pt shooting was NOT GREAT. I do think that will come around though. Epps and Jones being a combined 2-10 kind of sink our numbers.
3. Achor and Ballard rebounded well in the minutes they were in and I think the scoring will come, especially with Ballard
4. Macura is going to be very good. I could see him starting over Achor before conference play begins. Same with McGhee over Epps.
5. McGhee is a DAWG in every sense of the word. You can see why Andy Kennedy really liked him as a player out of HS. I think he's going to play a big role for us moving forward.
6. Really proud of the defensive effort the last 16 minutes. From the 16:02 mark of the second half on, we outscored them 44-11. We really put the clamps on them.
He won't shoot that much when the season cranks up. He had 6 offensive rebounds. He's going to give you that type of thing every nightQuote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
trust in Jans. winning ugly is what he does.. He likes this team--so I will sit back and watch. we have depth-and height. plus we have Hub.