Steve Robertson on OOB

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Originally Posted by Pancho

and most of us wouldn't be alive if we had gone through what Steve has endured. go talk to him sometime and hear his story.

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good post. The internet takes away the human element from all this.

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

3rd year Lebby will get to essentially start over again. New QB out of the Portal. New WR corps. New DBs. New Oline. Gonna be fun rebuilding the rebuild.

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Exactly. The guys that are wanted will cost a fortune to return bc players wanna win.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Has anyone found a video of the "roughing the passer call"? I can't find one. TV coverage also cut off the replay before the hit happened so you never got to see it a second time live.

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Watch the replay and watch when they come back from commercial when OT starts. They show it. It was touchy. Especially since the ref said "roughing the passer, second act" which I take to mean a second act after initial contact, like driving someone into the ground. There was none of that.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Watch the replay and watch when they come back from commercial when OT starts. They show it. It was touchy. Especially since the ref said "roughing the passer, second act" which I take to mean a second act after initial contact, like driving someone into the ground. There was none of that.

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To be fair, touchy is all it takes to get one these days. I didn't much protest from our guys

Agree with Tater. We need to hire someone like Art B as an "analist" to help a whole lot with game management. That would take a lot of pressure off Lebby so that he could devote all of his time to OC duties and strategy. The analyst could effectively be the HC in the booth. Why not?

Can the actual analysts we have now even be involved during a game?

I spoke to someone Sunday who is a big giver. Not cigarboy giver, but he's a pretty big giver. His exact words were "I'm ready to take a step back from football after Saturday."

How many others like that (people that legit write checks that matter) are ready to cut bait with Lebby? If he goes 0-8 again, he needs to be fired, period.

name 1 person who could be better in the same situation

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Originally Posted by Pancho

name 1 person who could be better in the same situation

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I could name a 100 with the same results

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

I spoke to someone Sunday who is a big giver. Not cigarboy giver, but he's a pretty big giver. His exact words were "I'm ready to take a step back from football after Saturday."

How many others like that (people that legit write checks that matter) are ready to cut bait with Lebby? If he goes 0-8 again, he needs to be fired, period.

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This why we can?t have nice things.

Your giver needs to pony up for more quality depth on DL and OL so we can rotate guys in so we aren?t sucking wind and tired in the fourth quarter when we need to gut one out.

Firing Lebby this year is beyond retarded. We aren?t getting a quality coach in this bloodbath. We would wind up with some G5 coordinator that really doesn?t know his ass from a whole in the ground but the morons with pitch forks and no sense demanded it.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I could name a 100 with the same results

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Bullshit.

They?re just names with a fart of hope they actually workout.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

This why we can?t have nice things.

Your giver needs to pony up for more quality depth on DL and OL so we can rotate guys in so we aren?t sucking wind and tired in the fourth quarter when we need to gut one out.

Firing Lebby this year is beyond retarded. We aren?t getting a quality coach in this bloodbath. We would wind up with some G5 coordinator that really doesn?t know his ass from a whole in the ground but the morons with pitch forks and no sense demanded it.

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I don't agree with the last paragraph, but I absolutely agree with the first part. My contribution certainly isn't buying us an all American, but I will continue to give it whoever our leaders feel should be in charge

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Originally Posted by Pancho

and most of us wouldn't be alive if we had gone through what Steve has endured. go talk to him sometime and hear his story.

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I respect his personal story immensely and who he is as a person. His professional takes are a different arena.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I don't agree with the last paragraph, but I absolutely agree with the first part. My contribution certainly isn't buying us an all American, but I will continue to give it whoever our leaders feel should be in charge

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I am a small giver too and I didn?t go to State. I want them to succeed and firing Lebby is one of the most shortsighted things this university could do at this moment.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Bullshit.

They?re just names with a fart of hope they actually workout.

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You don't think I could name 100 guys that would be winless in their first 12 sec games. I feel I could. Although I'd probably mess and a few (or more) would actually get 1

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You don't think I could name 100 guys that would be winless in their first 12 sec games. I feel I could. Although I'd probably mess and a few (or more) would actually get 1

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Winless? I didn?t read that part.

In that case, please continue.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Lebby is not getting fired. He is not getting fired for many reasons but Steve said obviously you do not fire a first time head coach that has shown vast improvement in year two. We are not replacing Lebby with an upgrade this season. The coaching market will be chaos within the next month. Other shoes are going to drop. We are a few boneheaded decisions by coaches and players from being 7-1. It?s a learning curve for Lebby and we will see what he has really learned in year three.

Now here is what got my attention. With all the chaos coming into the SEC with coaching changes that plays to our advantage to have a third year coach. And, this is huge too, the portal this season will be absolute bonkers with all the coaching turnover. Steve said we could really load up on some talented guys in the portal bc it will be saturated.

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Yeah, sounds great but so will everyone else.

SR is a tool. I take everything he says with a grain of salt. The portal will be wild as always. State needs are OL, QB,DL, CB. I hope Whitson gets a Medical Redshirt. The run defense would be a lot better with him

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

This why we can?t have nice things.

Your giver needs to pony up for more quality depth on DL and OL so we can rotate guys in so we aren?t sucking wind and tired in the fourth quarter when we need to gut one out.

Firing Lebby this year is beyond retarded. We aren?t getting a quality coach in this bloodbath. We would wind up with some G5 coordinator that really doesn?t know his ass from a whole in the ground but the morons with pitch forks and no sense demanded it.

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Start giving what he gives and you can start calling some shots.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You don't think I could name 100 guys that would be winless in their first 12 sec games. I feel I could. Although I'd probably mess and a few (or more) would actually get 1

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I think he meant that took us from where we were losing every sec game by double digits to being in every game and losing 3 of 4 at the buzzer.
I'm sure there are some. But not sure how many we could realistically get.

I?m a realist but for once in my life I?m seeing maroon......this close to Three SEC wins....not only that had the LEAD .....then it?s in our hands not the opponent. I?ve always believed put yourself in a POSITION to win.....For some reason I think Lebby is growing and learning......I like being in a position to win in a second year, now down the road it?s a problem, but DOGS were one stupid penalty away from beating the anointed one......GO DOGS.....Just thinking about Brian Kelly getting @ $210,000 every week for 5 years not working......@@@@ good work if you can get it!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by confucius say

I think he meant that took us from where we were losing every sec game by double digits to being in every game and losing 3 of 4 at the buzzer.
I'm sure there are some. But not sure how many we could realistically get.

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I was just being me by pointing out the winless conf record. Yall know I can't help myself haha

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

This is funny to me too. Dude looks like he hasn?t had a bath or washed his hair in 2 years, works for Genespage of all places and couldn?t get a job as a dishwasher and they take his opinions on State sports to heart. He tries to be Joe Cool Hippie from 1969 and to be impartial and objective!

Robbie is a FAN of the team he covers. He feels the same pain we do when he watches the shit show continue. Hippie Boy sucks up to whoever the coach is to get access for sure! Remember he was deeply in love with Cohens!

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Found Robbies burner

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Start giving what he gives and you can start calling some shots.

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Brother if I had the money, I would.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Brother if I had the money, I would.

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God help us if I win the lottery:.. our AD would quit from knowing he has to deal with me bc I open my wallet (and my mouth)

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Originally Posted by msstate7

God help us if I win the lottery:.. our AD would quit from knowing he has to deal with me bc I open my wallet (and my mouth)

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Sounds like a plot like to an Adam Sandler movie.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Sounds like a plot like to an Adam Sandler movie.

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My part will be played by Brad Pitt

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Originally Posted by Coach34

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

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This

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Originally Posted by Coach34

People can get mad and throw a fit- but last year simply didnt count against the guy. He got here in December and had to build a staff and began working on getting some players. We had almost no talent left on the team when he arrived. We spent very little last season on a roster (compared to the rest of the SEC). Spent the year installing his system and program. Lebbo started in a hole. He had less talent for 2024 when he got here than Croom had when he arrived.

Now this season- we have improved the roster quite a bit but it still lacks depth and has some holes. We are vastly improved. This is basically his Y1. Huntzler looks like a DC now that he has some talent to work with. We just scored 38 on Texas who had only given up more than 21 once before Saturday. Yes its frustrating not to stack some wins but it is what it is.

The program is headed in the right direction. In this Era of Portal/NIL- being competitive is about all we can ask for with our wallet that we have.

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

This is funny to me too. Dude looks like he hasn?t had a bath or washed his hair in 2 years, works for Genespage of all places and couldn?t get a job as a dishwasher and they take his opinions on State sports to heart. He tries to be Joe Cool Hippie from 1969 and to be impartial and objective!

Robbie is a FAN of the team he covers. He feels the same pain we do when he watches the shit show continue. Hippie Boy sucks up to whoever the coach is to get access for sure! Remember he was deeply in love with Cohens!

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You don't think Rosebowl is a MSU fan?

The reality is Robby tries to be the guy that says "what everyone is thinking" but there is a price to be paid for being that guy in the world of journalism when you cover a team. The reality is most of his opinions that he has pushed really hard for at MSU have turned out very poorly.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Agree with most. Lebby has brought big improvement to where we are mad at being 4-4 (rightfully so too). He has to be open to changing and learning too. A person doing a job for the first time who isn't willing to learn from mistakes is doomed to failure.

If Lebby is successful down the road here, we need to tweak his contract so he don't bolt easily. We stick with him to let him grown up on our dime, we need something in return down the road.

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He has to learn or he won?t succeed.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You don't think I could name 100 guys that would be winless in their first 12 sec games. I feel I could. Although I'd probably mess and a few (or more) would actually get 1

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Those 100 guys wouldnt have won a mf'ing thing last year with the money given for a roster and what was left to them- thats a fact. We didnt lose 1 ****ing game last year because of coaching. Our roster was terrible.

Now this year we have improved the roster by spending some damn money but we are still spending bottom of the SEC money. Can Lebby make some better decisions? Absolutely. But we are progressing and moving forward. Last year was a throw away season by everybody. We spent Nasty Bunch/ULL money on our roster last year

Couple of things:

Robbie molests collies and is a dumb ****stick. He needs to cover girls soccer and golf and then stfu.
Rosebowl is a different kind of cat but he knows sports and loves State. He and I didnt see eye to eye in the beginning simply because we hadnt had a conversation. We have since had a few convos and understand each other pretty well.

Keep funding to build depth plus keep/develop good players on campus. This is the way. Find some gems like Lame did in D-2 with the QB. They are there. Thats what analysts and other staff are for.

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Originally Posted by Pancho

and most of us wouldn't be alive if we had gone through what Steve has endured. go talk to him sometime and hear his story.

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Pretty easy to just not do drugs.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

You don't think Rosebowl is a MSU fan?

The reality is Robby tries to be the guy that says "what everyone is thinking" but there is a price to be paid for being that guy in the world of journalism when you cover a team. The reality is most of his opinions that he has pushed really hard for at MSU have turned out very poorly.

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He’s just (probably) 55+ years old and can’t stand how Steve looks, bottom line. Never mind what he says, how big a fan he is or how much he’s been through. I appreciate SR personally, not that I always agree with him

I really don't know much about SR, but if I recall he essentially was the one to get Freeze fired at OM with his calls to the escort service. I thought SR got himself in some trouble for that too with libel/slander even though he released the phone call...or there was some kind of drama involved. Kind of backfired on him though because Kiffin is a much better coach than Freeze, so it makes me annoyed SR wasn't smart enough to see Freeze was more a flash in the pan and not that great of a coach

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Pretty easy to just not do drugs.

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Wow. Kudos to you and your surroundings if no one has slipped and screwed up in their lives.

ETA? and if they have, I truly hope they?ve turned their life around, no matter how they dress.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Wow. Kudos to you and your surroundings if no one has slipped and screwed up in their lives.

ETA? and if they have, I truly hope they?ve turned their life around, no matter how they dress.

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I don't care how he dresses or what he looks like. I can also appreciate him turning his life around. But I'm not going to feel sorry for him because he chose to do drugs and get himself in that situation. Both things can be true.

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

I don't care how he dresses or what he looks like. I can also appreciate him turning his life around. But I'm not going to feel sorry for him because he chose to do drugs and get himself in that situation. Both things can be true.

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Speaking as someone who grew up poor and lost his childhood best friend at 23 to drug use (organ failure - not intentional overdose). It's not always that easy. Life affords different people different opportunities. And no this is not a comment on our skin color. I had parents who went to State and stuck together through my dad's illness. He wasn't so lucky to have a full family unit and his situation made them dirt poor.

You really don't get the influences one has unless you walk that life. Peer pressure at a young age. The disease that is addiction.

Saying it's easy to "not do drugs" - that's such a main character ass take. Not everyone walks through life like you do. Have some empathy and listen to someone else's struggle. Be better.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

He’s just (probably) 55+ years old and can’t stand how Steve looks, bottom line. Never mind what he says, how big a fan he is or how much he’s been through. I appreciate SR personally, not that I always agree with him

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I don't always agree with Rosebowl either, but I respect him. What he wears and looks like doesn't matter to me. I can definitely say that he is a hard worker and he has always treated me with respect.