Reese out was HUGE. We probably still lose but the score is a hell of a lot closer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Reese out was HUGE. We probably still lose but the score is a hell of a lot closer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Noxubee played-Starkville, Louisville, West Point--thats 3 of Mississippi's best football teams. WhenKT gets the chance to play--he will be better than Shapen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Gadget Qb--bullshit. He can do everything Shapen can do only better. Dude sometimes you say stupid shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If he was the better QB then he'd be playing. Some of you act like Lebby is purposely sabotaging his team for a kid he has no history with. If this was Dillon Gabriel or Jackson Arnold then it might hold some merit. It doesn't. Kamario just isn't ready. I know that's tough for some of you to understand but I guess the truth is tough to comprehend when it doesn't fit the narrative that Lebby hates Kamario and is sabotaging the team to play Shapen. I mean this is the same stupid ass argument I heard 9 years ago when Mullen stuck with Fitz over Dam Williams. They called Mullen a racist, said Fitz couldn't start for anyone else, said Mullen was holding the team back because Williams was better, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Kamario is a gadget QB right now. Doesn't mean he will be one next year. You know who else was a gadget QB their Freshman year? Tim Tebow. He turned out pretty good and I think it was pretty obvious then that Tebow was the far better athlete than Chris Leak. But you know who the coaches trusted to run the offense? Chris Leak. It's the same damn thing here. We have packages for Kamario, hell we saw one Saturday night but he messed up the cadence. You know why he messed it up? Because he's a Freshman in a 100K seat stadium having to make pre snap reads like never before. Kamario will be fine. He'll probably be the QB next year. But right now, Blake Shapen the best chance to win. Hell half of you were saying how poised Shapen was a month ago. Nothing changed except his O-Line got a hell of a lot worse.
Preach!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
The trolls are already starting rumors on sports radio that Kiffin is after KT using the same BS.
And look, I'm not saying he doesn't need to be more involved. Because he does. We have plays for him, but right now it seems like we're only playing him in certain situations with those plays. We need to have him in no matter the situation if we call those plays. And we need to have a pass in there for him because otherwise teams will just stack 8 in the box every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I'd love for him to have a series early in the Florida game. Get him used to the crowd. Give him a short pass to Evans and let Evans get some YAC. Give him a designed QB run. As long as he's getting first downs keep him in. After we get 3 or 6 or probably punt go back to Shapen.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I wouldn't give him anything on the first 2-3 drives because usually those are scripted and we like to tempo teams when we have success with it. But I would have him something like if you have 2nd and 6 midway through the first quarter, bring him in and let him go for 2-3 plays. See what he can give you. That's exactly what Florida did with Tebow. Just looking back, they gave Tebow anywhere between 5-11 plays a game. That is kind of where we need to be with Kamario. I actually thought we should have kept him in even after we got the false start on Saturday. Have some type of quick hitter play where if your first read isn't there you take off. We still need to keep things really easy for him. You don't want him to get paralysis by analysis and be completely useless. And it's a definite possibility for a kid that is still kind of struggling with all the nuances of our system and learning where to go with the reads and understanding progressions.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I completely agree about keeping him in after the false start. He needed that experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Standing applause..... but you're right svs, and the blind will never ever see thisQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I haven't seen anyone saying change QB's. Crazy for one of the other two on sideline not be prepared for a few snaps. I hope Shapen doesn't get banged up w/o the others not having any snaps or very few.
Jackie always gave the backup one series usually in the 3rd qtr.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Disagree. Shapen is more experienced and we may be using KT as a gadget QB but that ain't what he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Lebby is too loyal to Shapen IMO. I understand why to a point but he has to put team first. When Shapen struggles like he does, a change of pace is required - whether Hawk or KT. All good coaches do it. Tyson Lee and Relf come to mind, even Russell and Dak.
Yep you never know when your Sleepy will go down and Greg Plump will have to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Mullen cost us the USA game that year not playing Fitz but a different situation.
I have no info......but it would not surprise if LK Had back channel communications......if no other reason to make the DOGS look bad by losing a potential qb and boast on social media.......he is a manipulative master......
He is having back channel communications, as are about 13 other SEC schools. Just like we are having back channel communications with players.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1eyedog
Ya'll dont seem to understand where college football is today. There are probably 15-20 schools contacting KT on a regular basis right now. It's Free Agency 24/7/365 right now
If the false start was a KT problem, how come only one player moved?
because he is a mental midget and couldnt pay attention when we needed it most.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I absolutely love them!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
LMAO!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
One day he most likely will be better than Shapen. He is being "protected" right now.
It's impossible for some fans to understand this.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
It's like playing cards with my brothers kids!!!
Sherrill actually played the backup QB every 3rd possession. And sometimes it absolutely sucked. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
It was great experience for the backup QB though.
justifing your stupid comments-nice try. remember not starting Dak, Fitz, Relf--when they got a chance they never looked back. Shapen ain't it. wake up.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
All three of those QB's redshirted by the way. Kamario hasn't. If those played as true freshmen they would look like Kamario does now. Relf would have probably had fans wondering why we offered. He was vey inaccurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
good point. Im shocked people dont realize this. Fitz- one of the best 25 SEC QB's of all-time- played like 10 plays total his first 2 years in college footballQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He'll, relf had no business being on the field as a rs fr. Only reason he was is bc we had NO other choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Tc gonna believe what he wants to. Not sure why people think Lebby wants to lose. Maybe he's at practice or something stupid like that. Smh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
What has KT looked like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Only throw 3 passes, but completed 2 of them...
67% comp 46 tds (15.3 per att) 1 td 0 int
305.47 passer rating
10 rushes 79 yards 7.9 per
I realize the passing was vs Alcon st, so not saying he'd do this vs sec teams. Just don't understand the "they would look like kamario does now" statement.
Kamario moved the chains vs Tenn on what should've been a loss. He hasn't looked bad at all.
Coach.....Fitz ran all over and through and passed over and under for the most dominant DOG qb performance against the Reverend’s last game at velvet ditch that was my last live college game. It was a thing of beauty.....and I will always be thankful for his effort. I also think it is a travesty that Spears wasn’t banned for “ankle forearming” fitz and then the backup the next year....Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Relf had people saying that in Year 2. Lest we forget one of the great Jack Cristil quotes from the 08 Egg Bowl, "Chris Relf can throw it long. He cannot throw it accurately but he can throw it long."Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
That was also Year 3 for Nick. People forget that Nick was RS in 14 and then didn't play in 15 except for mop up duty and the Troy game where Dak had food poisoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1eyedog
That was a hell of a performance though. So fun being in Oxford that day because I fully expected we were going to get beat by 40Quote:
Originally Posted by 1eyedog
55 - 20
Maybe most dominant individual and team performance in egg bowl all time. Fitz just ripped a hole in rebs that day. I would have put 11 men on the line and made him throw it to a wide open WR by half. Hard to comprehend how much Fitz destroyed them.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
The 4th and 1 conversion broke them. Because after that we just stepped on their throats. Had we needed to score 70 that night we could have and I know for a fact Dan gave real thought to gunning for 60. When Dan was locked in for the Egg Bowl, which was rare unfortunately, he could coach circles around whoever Ole Miss had on the sidelines.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
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And don't forget Tom Allen was no longer helping Wommack with the defense. Their defense went down several notches after Tom left.
'16 was the end of the Freeze Era at OM. I really don't think they minded letting him go the next year.
The incredible part about Fitz that most people don't really realize is that between his SR year in HS and becoming a full-time starter for us he had thrown less then 100 passes. He would only throw 6-7 passes a game at Richmond Hill. He really learned how to play QB sitting on the bench for 2 years at an SEC school.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
One of those two was on a gadget play against Alcorn. It wasn't even a traditional read. All it was is our guy was way faster than the Alcorn guy and was wide open- which would have applied to any of our receivers on our roster. We ran the same play against Tennessee and he ran the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7