LOL

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Don?t bring rationality in here. These folks don?t like that.

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C34 could say grass is purple and you'd agree with it

We are 4 games into the season. We need to let it play out.

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

When they miss 10 free throws tomorrow will you have the same energy? MSU sports in general is a joke right now.

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Why do you crap on the MBK team for no reason? They're projected to be in the tourney. I swear some of you feel you can't be a fan of all 3 men's sports, so you trash the best one on campus.

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

We are 4 games into the season. We need to let it play out.

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I don't think anyone would be so down if we weren't 53-56 (18-42) the past 2 seasons. Our fanbase has been extremely patient with lemonis... no excuses anymore, win!

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

We are 4 games into the season. We need to let it play out.

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Most years, I'd agree. But this is going on 3 years. So it's not just 4 games.

Here is the truth.

Vandy and Wake Forest both lost to Austin Peay like teams last night. Does it mean they are terrible? No. It is the same for us. We lost, but it is obvious we are improved in a lot of areas.

On the other side of the coin, though, we HAVE to be concerned because of the last two years. You cannot have those type of seasons, lose a game like this, and act like it does not matter. It does.

Can we still have a great season? 100%. Do I think we are better? Yes. Does losing this game cause heartburn and doubt? Yes, it absolutely does.

We shall see.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

C34 could say grass is purple and you'd agree with it

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Yep. C34 and his band of Merry Men drinking the Kool Aid.

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Originally Posted by ZedFedder

Here is the truth.

Vandy and Wake Forest both lost to Austin Peay like teams last night. Does it mean they are terrible? No. It is the same for us. We lost, but it is obvious we are improved in a lot of areas.

On the other side of the coin, though, we HAVE to be concerned because of the last two years. You cannot have those type of seasons, lose a game like this, and act like it does not matter. It does.

Can we still have a great season? 100%. Do I think we are better? Yes. Does losing this game cause heartburn and doubt? Yes, it absolutely does.

We shall see.

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It is also how you lose. One pitcher having the game of his life and holding us to two runs (it happens). Two separate pitching staffs that are nowhere close to SEC caliber, very worrisome.

Pitching seems like it is going to be back to at least acceptable if not good. Shitty hitting when facing shitty pitching and we have problems. I don't care if we have 3 starters out, our backups should still be good enough to rake a shitty pitcher. That doesn't even talk about the Little League base running.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

C34 could say grass is purple and you'd agree with it

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Not true. His defense of arnett and company was awful. And I said so often. And him advocating that friend was a good coach was ludacris. I said that as well. So… try again

hey, i like ludacris*************

You folks melting over the loss last night is pathetic its the same people over and over too which is even more pathetic

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Originally Posted by Duckdog

You folks melting over the loss last night is pathetic its the same people over and over too which is even more pathetic

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Cool.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

The thing is last year was his "get good or get gone" year. You're extending far more patience to Lemo then you do to JoMo, who never finished 14th or 13th in the conference

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Lemon doesnt allow the players to fail drug tests and still play

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Originally Posted by ZedFedder

Here is the truth.

Vandy and Wake Forest both lost to Austin Peay like teams last night. Does it mean they are terrible? No. It is the same for us. We lost, but it is obvious we are improved in a lot of areas.

On the other side of the coin, though, we HAVE to be concerned because of the last two years. You cannot have those type of seasons, lose a game like this, and act like it does not matter. It does.

Can we still have a great season? 100%. Do I think we are better? Yes. Does losing this game cause heartburn and doubt? Yes, it absolutely does.

We shall see.

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More truth. Vandy and Wake Forest finished in the Top 20 last year, buying them a couple of mid-week losses here and there. The past 2 seasons, State finished 14 and 13 in the SEC, buying Lemonis ZERO grace period for unacceptable losses and poorly prepared lineups and no discernible improvement in the portal.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Not true. His defense of arnett and company was awful. And I said so often. And him advocating that friend was a good coach was ludacris. I said that as well. So… try again

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Yet Friend got a promotion upon leaving us and they demoted the AR guy

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

More truth. Vandy and Wake Forest finished in the Top 20 last year, buying them a couple of mid-week losses here and there. The past 2 seasons, State finished 14 and 13 in the SEC, buying Lemonis ZERO grace period for unacceptable losses and poorly prepared lineups and no discernible improvement in the portal.

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Lemon gets the same leeway Vandy and Wake does. It's about where you finish this year- period. If we lose in a Regional final to someone in June he will likely return. That's what all this boils down to. Get it done or we will make a change. His job wont be decided until May at the earliest

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Lemon gets the same leeway Vandy and Wake does. It's about where you finish this year- period. If we lose in a Regional final to someone in June he will likely return. That's what all this boils down to. Get it done or we will make a change. His job wont be decided until May at the earliest

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This putting us another full year behind in our recovery while going in to 2025 which we all know has the possibility of being a complete rebuild due the draft picks from this team that you assure us we have. And if they are smart they will definitely sign even if they are 15th round or later so they can get proper training and improvement after suffering under Lemonis staff for 3 years.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Yet Friend got a promotion upon leaving us and they demoted the AR guy

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Friend made 800k/yr at TN. They ran him out of town, he took a paycut to $700k at SC, and then his buddie Bobo hired him at Auburn for 700k. Auburn ran him out of town, and he took our job for 475k. Now he's the OC and OL coach at WKU. Sounds like a real up and up career path for him

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Lemon gets the same leeway Vandy and Wake does. It's about where you finish this year- period. If we lose in a Regional final to someone in June he will likely return. That's what all this boils down to. Get it done or we will make a change. His job wont be decided until May at the earliest

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Did Vandy and Wake finish as the worst team in their conference these past 2 seasons? No? Huh, you know it almost sounds like we're in a different situation, doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Yet Friend got a promotion upon leaving us and they demoted the AR guy

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C'mon now, you are just reaching now

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Did Vandy and Wake finish as the worst team in their conference these past 2 seasons? No? Huh, you know it almost sounds like we're in a different situation, doesn't it?

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Doesnt matter. It's about this season. THIS season decides everything. What happened the last two years while out there- doesnt affect the success/failure of THIS season. THIS season decides his fate

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Friend made 800k/yr at TN. They ran him out of town, he took a paycut to $700k at SC, and then his buddie Bobo hired him at Auburn for 700k. Auburn ran him out of town, and he took our job for 475k. Now he's the OC and OL coach at WKU. Sounds like a real up and up career path for him

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Auburn did not run him out of town- Auburn fired the HC. He left Sville because they HC got fired as well.

Did Bama's asst coaches "get run out of town" also or did something happen with the HC?

Like a flat tire

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Originally Posted by Coach34

blah blah blah. The fact he is a pitching prospect that also can rake is why he was voted that. He's a bigtime player

Now is there concern about the bottom of our line-up due to injuries??? Absolutely

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You are proving my point.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Why do you crap on the MBK team for no reason? They're projected to be in the tourney. I swear some of you feel you can't be a fan of all 3 men's sports, so you trash the best one on campus.

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I'm not trashing them. I'll be watching tonight just like I'm gonna watch the baseball game. But the basketball and baseball team have the exact same issues that they had last year. College players should be able to make free throws. It's literally the dumbest thing I've ever witnessed. College players should also be able to hit a curve ball. I mean, do they even practice hitting curveballs or just focus on smashing home runs.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Doesnt matter. It's about this season. THIS season decides everything. What happened the last two years while out there- doesnt affect the success/failure of THIS season. THIS season decides his fate

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So if Lemonis enters SEC play with a losing OOC record and you don't think Selmon would put him in the streets?

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

So if Lemonis enters SEC play with a losing OOC record and you don't think Selmon would put him in the streets?

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If you have +7 OOC loses with the schedule this year, you are not Hosting and likely not playing in any regional.

You keep lemons but openly interview and call people. Unless you just promote Goat, so you can maybe Spark the team.

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

If you have +7 OOC loses with the schedule this year, you are not Hosting and likely not playing in any regional.

You keep lemons but openly interview and call people. Unless you just promote Goat, so you can maybe Spark the team.

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Goat has been here 8 years. He is the culture, he ain't sparking crap. But, might as well. what do you have to lose? It's better to fire Lemo and get him off camera than to have him be the elephant in the room. SOrry, I mean elephant on the bucket

Cough cough

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

If you have +7 OOC loses with the schedule this year, you are not Hosting and likely not playing in any regional.

You keep lemons but openly interview and call people. Unless you just promote Goat, so you can maybe Spark the team.

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Our postseason chances still come down to SEC play. (I know)

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Our postseason chances still come down to SEC play. (I know)

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I mean, kinda. If we're 15-15, we should be safely in. If we're 11-19, we're out.

But if we have 12, 13, or 14 wins, it'll come down to RPI and non-conference resume, and ours is going to suck most likely. If we barely miss making a Regional, we can absolutely blame the last 2 days.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I mean, kinda. If we're 15-15, we should be safely in. If we're 11-19, we're out.

But if we have 12, 13, or 14 wins, it'll come down to RPI and non-conference resume, and ours is going to suck most likely. If we barely miss making a Regional, we can absolutely blame the last 2 days.

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Historically speaking- we're probably in with 12 wins and would be a lock with 13 or 14. UNLESS we were to have a losing overall record. Which is unlikely if we assume 12-14 SEC wins. But also possible.

But here's where I think it could hurt Lemonis in this particular scenario we're talking about (assuming 12-14 SEC wins)- it could very well make us a 3 seed vs a 2. Which makes it harder for us to win a regional and make a SR which I think is the minimum acceptable standard for the baseball program at this point. IF we're a three seed and we don't win a regional then I think he is fired.

LOL at yall talking regionals. This team ain't sniffing a regional

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

LOL at yall talking regionals. This team ain't sniffing a regional

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Hence the saracstic (I know)

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

If you have +7 OOC loses with the schedule this year, you are not Hosting and likely not playing in any regional.

You keep lemons but openly interview and call people. Unless you just promote Goat, so you can maybe Spark the team.

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Hosting !!!! Playing like they have and they will not make the SEC tournament again.

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Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg

Hosting !!!! Playing like they have and they will not make the SEC tournament again.

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I am talking "Hosting" because that is the only level of performance that will surely save Lemons. At this point, he better put his house on the market.

I would think that Lemons could get a job sitting on a bucket in Louisville, but it looks like the McDonnell magic is gone too.

By the way, I am not surprised by this. I am the fire-him 2-years-ago camp. Some people were cool with throwing 3 seasons in the trash. Some might be ready to throw a 4th.

go .500 in this weak non con schedule and he won't see an SEC contest.

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

For as smart as he thinks he is he's picked some strange hills to die on with his sucking off of Arnett and Lemonis. I figured his narcissistic self would be blasting both of them telling us how stupid they are and what he would do and what we should be doing. Strange.

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Yet, he hated Stansbury and we still can?t replicate what Stansbury did.

We are stuck in a time loop with Limpmonis. He won a title then turned into JoMo

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

I am talking "Hosting" because that is the only level of performance that will surely save Lemons. At this point, he better put his house on the market.

I would think that Lemons could get a job sitting on a bucket in Louisville, but it looks like the McDonnell magic is gone too.

By the way, I am not surprised by this. I am the fire-him 2-years-ago camp. Some people were cool with throwing 3 seasons in the trash. Some might be ready to throw a 4th.

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Some of our fans are too busy bitching to understand hypotheticals during week 2 of a 14 week season.