I agree with this! And if he bombs there'll be plenty of time for folks to bmc. Outside of Holcombe and one bad inning out of siary the pitching has been much better especially our approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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I agree with this! And if he bombs there'll be plenty of time for folks to bmc. Outside of Holcombe and one bad inning out of siary the pitching has been much better especially our approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Given we blew the game today, we desperately need the win tomorrow. This season in particular we needed to be strong out of the gate. Starting the season with a series loss would have everyone thinking "Here we go again". It could all go negative fairly quickly.
Just take one game at a time folks. I bet Air Force has pitched all their best arms. We stomp them tomorrow
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I'm expecting a strong performance from Loo. Oddly enough our worst starter might be our Friday guy. I also want to see Gavin Black tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
I'd be more worried about the team psyche than fan perception.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
I think Gautreau needs to step it up some with these guys and treat them more like college players instead of pros for these first four weeks.
No reason to let the team fail before you build them back up.
Let's see:
Pitching is improved
Defense is solid with two or three starters out
Hitting is behind the pitching on a freezing ass cold night with wind howling in
Baserunning is trash
Coaching decisions questionable
This!! I’m more worried about the offense. We haven’t been able to hit shitry pitching since Gotro got here. A shift lefty shits us completely down. Like I have stated before, how many times have we let a bad pitcher shut us down for 7-8 innings and look clueless…Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I’m also worried about if we fire Lemonis, instead of going and hiring a big name like we can, we just promote Gotro.
I want that swag Vitello teams play with. Be the assholes. Get some swag for god sakes! All we do Is beat our chest and then roll over a weak ground ball…
That swag Vitello team lost 5-1 to unranked Oklahoma last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
THIS! 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You miss the point year 3 of the same mistakes does not invoke confidence. it's like catching your wife 17ing the neighbor after the 3rd time do you still want her!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
My take is simple. I hate to place blame on one kid, but if anybody other than Holcomb pitches the 9th and we win. It’s early and we have to learn what we have. My guess is by sec play Holcomb won’t be pitching much, if any. Our other pitchers looked much better. Stephen was absolutely dealing. We look so much better pitching thus far this season early on outside of Holcomb. Like I said, we are learning who our players are right now. We will win today and have one series under our belt. From my perspective, this team looks the part of a NCAA tournament team. We hit decent yesterday just had no timely hits. That’s the way it falls sometimes. Our hitting will improve weekly.
This is where I am right now. Holcomb won't see SEC much unless injuries happen. He's a mid week guy with limited innings. The win yesterday was in the bag with good pitching, just blew the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
This has nothing to do with last night, but Lemonis does not have it and that has been clear for a while.
Holcombe is a perfect example of the irrationality of some of the optimism for this year. The dude walked more than TEN per 9 IP last year, and several thought he would suddenly be our Friday night guy. You just rarely see a jump like that in one year. He was absolutely terrible last year and did not look good again. There is no reason to assume he will be terrible based on last night, but there is reason to think he likely will not be great based on last year, and last night did not inspire more confidence.
We likely will not be a very good team...because that is what we have proven to be for two years now, and many of our guys are the same and need bigger leaps than is reasonable to assume they will make.
It's a long season, and we need to let it play out, but it looks like the SOS from the previous two years. I have zero faith Lemonis is going to turn it around this year. I hope I'm wrong. If he doesn't get it fixed then obviously he's got to go.
We may not win another game.
Or we may make the postseason, in which case this will be one of the all time dumbest thread starters in the history of the board.
We certainly could make the postseason, but not sure that hope is based on anything but hope. We've missed the sec tourney (forget ncaa) the last 2 seasons, and the sec coaches predict us to miss it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Lately I've been against almost everything you've posted but I'm with you on this. We have Lemonis this year. This isn't the time to think about the last two. It's the second game. Let's win today. If he doesn't cut it this year then he's gone. No need in worrying about it. Selmon will only have a tough decision if he makes the tournament as a two/three? seed and gets knocked out right away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I don't see the recruiting. He was suppose to be a great recruiter and we're doing just as good, worse than in the past. When can was here the recruits we did get were dirt bags and tough as nails, produced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
AbsolutelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Holcombe's issues last night were mechanics. I just don't think he is a relief pitcher. It's a good test for Parker IMO. Holcombe looked strong in the preseason up until his last start. We'll see if he can correct it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
We actually hit OK I thought. But when your baserunners erase themselves it hurts your offense in multiple ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
If Chance doesn't slip it's one less out and it's a run. Just an example.
This all goes back to the reason "big donkey", holcombe was at NEMCC playing juco ball and not somewhere else right out of HS. Parker Owen was the only catcher on that NEMCC team who could adequately block his pitches. He looked good at times but was wild beyond measure. If he continues to struggle with proper mechanics, he'll be observing.
He is certainly not the guy I want pitching in the ninth with a one run lead. That's not the time to have a guy pitching who can't throw strikes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
I just hope it doesn't take Lemonis 3 or 4 more times to see this (and resultantly costing us 3 or 4 more wins).Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
This is on Parker. He's the one that wanted him out thereQuote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
But who else do we have that has experience in that situation? That is healthy? It's not like we have a clear cut closer. Auger and Holcombe are honestly our most reliable "proven" guys at this point. Sure you would like to pitch guys with a huge lead to see what happens but we didn't have that opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
This to me is where Dohm in the rotation kind of hurts us. I think he would have gotten the job done last night.
My point is we're going to have to try some other guys and put them in the fire to see who can perform and who can't. Some will like Cheatham and some won't like Holcombe.
I don't think Lemonis can afford to give guys long leashes. Last nights game was just stupid. It was a classic early season loss to me. We're down a few starters and trying to figure ourselves out and then we have some weird things happen in the game and lost by one run.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
Holcombe pitching the 9th makes me question lemonis' judgement. If Holcombe is pitching the 9th bc he's our best option, I question lemonis' recruiting.
Those are called free outs. Was taught that the other side has to earn outs. Out are precious don’t give them away you only have 27 to play with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I don’t, after the PC talked to him about his mechanics in the 8th he got the next two easily. In the ninth it’s like he forgot all that last conversation. His elbow was all over the place, he was just chunking it up there as hard as he could. Just another big arm talent with a 5 cent head. It being the second game of the season Lemonis is trying to see how the pieces fit. It it were me Holcombe would have just shot his wad and proven that he can’t accept coaching and be done except for some time on Tuesday afternoon, now if Lemonis runs him back out there in a crucial situation then it’s on the staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I do think Parker pulled him faster than Foxhall would have last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Holcombe would probably have stayed in at least one more batter. Parker at least made the change after two batters.
Is this supposed to be a defense of him? Mechanical issues are a problem and have been for him since last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Not a defense. It's an observation. The coaches have to fix it and Holcombe has to execute it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
No, it's on Lemonis. He's the head coach. He's paid to make the tough decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Let him pitch when things don’t matter. He has struggled and maybe he can get better midweek pitching when the game is out of hand. No way I’d run him back out there in the situation like last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
This team lacks confidence, gotta get a winning streak going to gain some swag, two straight years we had has caused problems. Not sure we are as talented as some thing on ED.
^^^^ This. I love my Bulldogs, but outside of Dakota and Hunter, how many starting position players do we have that would start for other SEC teams (UT, LSU, UF, Arky) - maybe a couple but not many more.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I can buy this.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
the head coach is ultimately responsible for wins and losses...not the pitching coach. another reason to send lemondick to the showers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We know Holcombe is wild as he had already shown in the 8th as well as most of last year. If Auger had started the 9th we would have been much more likely to have held the lead. I can live with losing much more if our pitcher gets hit than just walking the park.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Ultimately yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
But Parker made the decision to stay with Holcombe. Parker is the guy who spends all the practice time with them. Not Lemon. I guarantee you Parker wasn’t in the dugout going “get him out of there” and Lemon insisted we roll him out another inning