DC is coaching this weekend, I think?

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12-02-2023, 03:23 PM
Pancho

Lupoi?
12-02-2023, 03:26 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Pancho

Lupoi?

You think we're pulling the DC at Oregon who is making close to $2mm? I don't see it.
12-02-2023, 03:39 PM
Pancho

He is being mentioned as well as the van buren QB
12-02-2023, 03:41 PM
Offshore Dawg

SWAG; scientific wild ass guess.
12-02-2023, 04:22 PM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg

SWAG; scientific wild ass guess.

That is EXACTLY the definition of SWAG for this board!!!!
12-02-2023, 04:51 PM
Treemydawg

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Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg

SWAG; speculatory wild ass guess.

FIFY
12-02-2023, 05:01 PM
TheLostDawg

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

I?d have to ask myself one question first. Why would he leave FSU to come to a rebuilding job in Starkville? Then I might be able to zero in on legit candidates. Troy, Tulane and NM State and see if they have any connections and work from there.

Sole D/c, raise, and we have a track record or making DC look good.
12-02-2023, 06:05 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

I’d have to ask myself one question first. Why would he leave FSU to come to a rebuilding job in Starkville? Then I might be able to zero in on legit candidates. Troy, Tulane and NM State and see if they have any connections and work from there.

My hope is that taking a step back and picking up some things from Adam Fuller could be beneficial to us.
12-02-2023, 06:06 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by smootness

No thanks on Shannon. With the names I?ve heard, I would want Collins most. Not sure if we could get him.

Collins and Shannon are the same guy.
12-02-2023, 06:37 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Collins and Shannon are the same guy.

Collins is better:

So collins was a CO DC with Shannon at UF, then a HC since then. He may still "have it" as DC.

Shannon was last a HC in 2010. Since then he's been a position coach, interim HC when people were fired, co-DC with Collins, full time DC at UF for 1 season after Collins left, then when Mullen didn't retain him he was DC at UCF. Huepel didnt take him to TN, and the new UCF coach (Mahlzahn) didn't retain him. No other team picked him up as DC.

It seems as though actually coaches do not believe Shannon to have "it" anymore. and he's had fairly recent opportunities to prove himself as DC at UCF.
12-02-2023, 06:42 PM
bigbub50

Any narrative that a former DC that became a head coach for a few years may not have it any more as a DC is ridiculous in my opinion.
12-02-2023, 07:06 PM
Joebob

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Collins is better:

So collins was a CO DC with Shannon at UF, then a HC since then. He may still "have it" as DC.

Shannon was last a HC in 2010. Since then he's been a position coach, interim HC when people were fired, co-DC with Collins, full time DC at UF for 1 season after Collins left, then when Mullen didn't retain him he was DC at UCF. Huepel didnt take him to TN, and the new UCF coach (Mahlzahn) didn't retain him. No other team picked him up as DC.

It seems as though actually coaches do not believe Shannon to have "it" anymore. and he's had fairly recent opportunities to prove himself as DC at UCF.

I think this says a lot, IMO.
12-02-2023, 07:24 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Collins is better:

So collins was a CO DC with Shannon at UF, then a HC since then. He may still "have it" as DC.

Shannon was last a HC in 2010. Since then he's been a position coach, interim HC when people were fired, co-DC with Collins, full time DC at UF for 1 season after Collins left, then when Mullen didn't retain him he was DC at UCF. Huepel didnt take him to TN, and the new UCF coach (Mahlzahn) didn't retain him. No other team picked him up as DC.

It seems as though actually coaches do not believe Shannon to have "it" anymore. and he's had fairly recent opportunities to prove himself as DC at UCF.

One is coaching right now and the other has a podcast.
12-02-2023, 07:36 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Collins is better:

So collins was a CO DC with Shannon at UF, then a HC since then. He may still "have it" as DC.

Shannon was last a HC in 2010. Since then he's been a position coach, interim HC when people were fired, co-DC with Collins, full time DC at UF for 1 season after Collins left, then when Mullen didn't retain him he was DC at UCF. Huepel didnt take him to TN, and the new UCF coach (Mahlzahn) didn't retain him. No other team picked him up as DC.

It seems as though actually coaches do not believe Shannon to have "it" anymore. and he's had fairly recent opportunities to prove himself as DC at UCF.

Quality post here
12-02-2023, 07:37 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

One is coaching right now and the other has a podcast.

Mr Podcast got paid a few million by Tech to no longer come to work. He didnt have to jump right back into something
12-02-2023, 07:48 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Mr Podcast got paid a few million by Tech to no longer come to work. He didnt have to jump right back into something

Bingo, nice problem to have.
12-02-2023, 08:00 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Mr Podcast got paid a few million by Tech to no longer come to work. He didnt have to jump right back into something

Partially because his defense at Tech allowed 30 PPG and couldn't stop The Citadel.
12-02-2023, 08:13 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Partially because his defense at Tech allowed 30 PPG and couldn't stop The Citadel.

Well Arnett is a great DC but we saw our defense this year. HC is a different animal.

But regardless, you have guy 1) that was a good DC, was a HC for a while and has spent 1 year out of the game, vs guy 2) who has had post HC shots at DC and didn't impress guys like Huepel enough to bring to TN. LB coach is the best he can currently do, not even G5 DC.

Side note: looking at his resume his first contract as Miami HC was 4 years $4M TOTAL; it's INSANE how much coaching salaries have exploded
12-02-2023, 08:16 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Partially because his defense at Tech allowed 30 PPG and couldn't stop The Citadel.

That’s a reach bro, HC isn’t calling that defense and dude took over a broken program.
12-02-2023, 08:34 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

That’s a reach bro, HC isn’t calling that defense and dude took over a broken program.

They were bad for four years and that was Collins "side" of the ball. It's not a good look.

The Collins love is typical MSU fans "well we know that guy and he had a good year here once ten years ago".

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