Chad Bumphis Staying

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11-29-2023, 09:33 AM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by Thick

I bet we see more of Creed this upcoming season. If you can’t/don’t like to block as a wr then you need to quit. WR’s are expected to block at all levels of the game. Tulu’s lazy ass would be riding pine until the light comes on or he transfers out.

Interesting thing, he would have to block anywhere else he went too.
11-29-2023, 09:49 AM
woof

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Originally Posted by Op4isabitch

Glad he?s staying for recruiting BUT I wasn?t impressed with the WR group for most of the season. Bad route running and dropped catches. Maybe it wasn?t all Bumps fault. I guess we will see.

SAME! I'm appreciative of what Bump did for us when he played WR, great player under Mullen...BUT very concerned about his coaching/developing of our WR players. You really ONLY have one job, catch the damn football and his guys failed this past season.

I'm concerned b/c I would argue Bump has the second most import job on the Offense (behind the OC) of making sure our WRs catch the damn football in this Lebby offense. IMHO, it appears he doesn't have what it takes to excel into a great SEC coach, he seems more of a yes man. He might just need to be at JUCO or D2 level. His WRs had many drops, ran wrong routes, blocked wrong & never seemed to learn the Barbay offense. Yes, Barbay & his O sucked ass, but you still should simply catch the damn football.

Now, in recruiting, he has a MUCH BETTER shot to be a successful SEC recruiting coach due to his connections, charisma and connecting with players/families. These are his talents.

I was hoping Lebby brought in his own WR coach.
11-29-2023, 10:46 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by woof

SAME! I'm appreciative of what Bump did for us when he played WR, great player under Mullen...BUT very concerned about his coaching/developing of our WR players. You really ONLY have one job, catch the damn football and his guys failed this past season.

I'm concerned b/c I would argue Bump has the second most import job on the Offense (behind the OC) of making sure our WRs catch the damn football in this Lebby offense. IMHO, it appears he doesn't have what it takes to excel into a great SEC coach, he seems more of a yes man. He might just need to be at JUCO or D2 level. His WRs had many drops, ran wrong routes, blocked wrong & never seemed to learn the Barbay offense. Yes, Barbay & his O sucked ass, but you still should simply catch the damn football.

Now, in recruiting, he has a MUCH BETTER shot to be a successful SEC recruiting coach due to his connections, charisma and connecting with players/families. These are his talents.

I was hoping Lebby brought in his own WR coach.

Actually, he has lots of other jobs as a WR coach, and drops were the least of the problems. I'm on board w a second year, just can't have the mental lapses we had at that position again.
11-29-2023, 11:26 AM
CoachT14

Our receivers had a 7.37% drop percentage. That's good for 2nd best in the SEC only behind Bama.

For reference, our QB's had the highest % of uncatchable balls thrown in the SEC.

Context matters. Our receivers were some of the best doing their main job of catching the ball in the SEC and were arguably the best at it, when you take into account our QBs were the worst in the SEC.
11-29-2023, 12:39 PM
confucius say

The only think our WR did well was catch. They dropped a few, but not many. Sucked at everything else though.
11-29-2023, 01:12 PM
R2Dawg

Good to have a hometown guy on staff; hope that is what Lebby wanted and he didn't get forced to keep him. Hope Bump succeeds.
11-29-2023, 01:14 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by confucius say

The only think our WR did well was catch. They dropped a few, but not many. Sucked at everything else though.

And as of this moment, the other issues could be brushed off as scheme problems or angst with the scheme.
11-29-2023, 01:17 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Our receivers had a 7.37% drop percentage. That's good for 2nd best in the SEC only behind Bama.

For reference, our QB's had the highest % of uncatchable balls thrown in the SEC.

Context matters. Our receivers were some of the best doing their main job of catching the ball in the SEC and were arguably the best at it, when you take into account our QBs were the worst in the SEC.

Being 111th in the nation in passing leads to a smaller sample size. Kind of the inverse of when we argued during Leach's tenure about dropped passes.
11-29-2023, 01:23 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Being 111th in the nation in passing leads to a smaller sample size. Kind of the inverse of when we argued during Leach's tenure about dropped passes.

Why do you think I included drop rate? It's a rate which means it compares it in relation to other teams pass catchers. It's not total number of drops.
11-29-2023, 01:49 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Why do you think I included drop rate? It's a rate which means it compares it in relation to other teams pass catchers. It's not total number of drops.

You don't think rate can be affected by a smaller sample size? Think we'd still have the same rate under Leach?

Where'd you get those statistics?
11-29-2023, 03:02 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

You don't think rate can be affected by a smaller sample size? Think we'd still have the same rate under Leach?

Where'd you get those statistics?

We were 6th and 7th. That?s why it?s called a rate. It gives you a number passed on the rate at which you were dropping balls relative to the other teams in the conference.

Clark Brooks - SEC Stat Cat advanced stats.
11-29-2023, 03:08 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

And as of this moment, the other issues could be brushed off as scheme problems or angst with the scheme.

Cool. Why does the rest of the offensive staff not get that pass??? Bc you don't like em. They all should get equal blame for their poor performance. That's all I''m saying bump's guys weren't any better.
11-29-2023, 03:13 PM
Leroy Jenkins

I trust Kyle Whittingham's coach evaluations.
11-29-2023, 03:15 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Cool. Why does the rest of the offensive staff not get that pass??? Bc you don't like em. They all should get equal blame for their poor performance. That's all I''m saying bump's guys weren't any better.

At the end of the day, I saw several receivers give minimal to no effort in some games in blocking or going after balls or reactions when things were going their way. That is all a reflection of leadership and i think our WR leadership was piss poor last season.

Maybe it was all system related, but man it was rough.
11-30-2023, 07:40 AM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Cool. Why does the rest of the offensive staff not get that pass??? Bc you don't like em. They all should get equal blame for their poor performance. That's all I''m saying bump's guys weren't any better.

I'm sorry your buddies got fired Homiedawg. Barbay and Arnett are at the foot of the problem. Everyone but the RBs pretty much sucked offensively, I thought they were fine.

An OL that has been in the top 3rd in the SEC in the last 2 seasons all of a sudden becomes one of the worst, despite only losing 1 guy each of those years. that's a coaching problem. That's Barbay, Friend, Schmidt.

My entire point is that Bumphis' receivers improved in something (drastically mind you), outside of the RBs everyone else regressed massively. QB was worse, OL was worse, TEs were a push because we had none.

The WRs didn't regress they got better, not by a lot but they did.
11-30-2023, 09:14 AM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

And as of this moment, the other issues could be brushed off as scheme problems or angst with the scheme.

If the implication is guys quit or didn't play hard because they were in their feelings about the scheme, then bye.

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