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11-02-2023, 08:16 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Santiago

Would love to stumble onto a Heupel type coach.

Well if I'm going to stumble into someone, how bout the next Saban or Smart? They may only stay for 3-4 years but with the new playoff structure coming...let's dream big if we are going to dream.
11-02-2023, 08:20 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by KB21

Cool. So you want to be eliminate the OC for the team that has the most productive offense in country.

That would be lsu if like traditional (total and scoring) or Michigan if you like FEI
11-02-2023, 08:26 PM
HoopsDawg

So far, Herman is the only name that intrigued me. Maybe Lebby.
11-02-2023, 08:27 PM
KB21

If we are focusing on coaches that know the SEC, then we are screwed. There isn't a single offensive coordinator in the SEC right now that screams potential great head coach. If you look at offensive coordinators nationally, you have:
Ryan Grubb at Washington
Garrett Riley at Clemson
Jeff Lebby at Oklahoma
Will Stein at Oregon
Brian Hartline at Ohio State
Sherrone Moore at Michigan
Zach Kittley at Texas Tech
Collin Klein at Kansas State
Andy Kotelnecki at Kansas
Kendal Briles at TCU
Ben Arbuckle at Washington State
Mike Yurcich at Penn State
Alex Atkins at Florida State
Phil Longo at Wisconsin
Brian Lindgren at Oregon State

I'd look at all of them before I looked at an SEC OC.

G5 offensive minded head coaches:
Tom Herman, FAU
Clay Helton, Georgia Southern
Jamey Chadwell, Liberty
Tyson Helton, Western Kentucky
Jeff Traylor, UTSA

Of these, Helton and Herman would be my top two.
11-02-2023, 08:28 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by KB21

Cool. So you want to be eliminate the OC for the team that has the most productive offense in country.

No, I'd eliminate the guy that's followed the other around and never recruited the Southeast. He's not up for any jobs either.
11-02-2023, 08:33 PM
dawgday166

One of my top criteria too is ... guys that can develop and know how to handle QBs. 3 and low 4* QBs is what I'm talking about. They know what to look for in lower rated QBs when recruiting and know how to develop it.

Urban can, Herman can, Mullen can, Kiffin can, and not sure of others but that would be high on my attributes list. Or he would bring an OC who can and has done so.
11-02-2023, 08:35 PM
msstate7

If we go OC, Kendal briles is my preference
11-02-2023, 08:35 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by KB21

If we are focusing on coaches that know the SEC, then we are screwed. There isn't a single offensive coordinator in the SEC right now that screams potential great head coach. If you look at offensive coordinators nationally, you have:
Ryan Grubb at Washington
Garrett Riley at Clemson
Jeff Lebby at Oklahoma
Will Stein at Oregon
Brian Hartline at Ohio State
Sherrone Moore at Michigan
Zach Kittley at Texas Tech
Collin Klein at Kansas State
Andy Kotelnecki at Kansas
Kendal Briles at TCU
Ben Arbuckle at Washington State
Mike Yurcich at Penn State
Alex Atkins at Florida State
Phil Longo at Wisconsin
Brian Lindgren at Oregon State

I'd look at all of them before I looked at an SEC OC.

G5 offensive minded head coaches:
Tom Herman, FAU
Clay Helton, Georgia Southern
Jamey Chadwell, Liberty
Tyson Helton, Western Kentucky
Jeff Traylor, UTSA

Of these, Helton and Herman would be my top two.

I don't think anyone is strictly saying SEC coordinators but coordinators with SEC experience, especially SEC coordinator experience would be on a more preferred list. Lebby, Longo, Briles. But you are skipping Mike Denbrook, he is a very good OC at LSU. Has done good work with QB's as well.
11-02-2023, 08:38 PM
KB21

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

No, I'd eliminate the guy that's followed the other around and never recruited the Southeast. He's not up for any jobs either.

Yet, if he had taken the Alabama job when Nick offered it to him last year, that would have made him a better candidate? Grubb may be the highest paid OC in college football. Washington is paying him $2 million per season.
11-02-2023, 08:39 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by KB21

Yet, if he had taken the Alabama job when Nick offered it to him last year, that would have made him a better candidate? Grubb may be the highest paid OC in college football. Washington is paying him $2 million per season.

I would say yes. Working under saban is good for the resume
11-02-2023, 08:40 PM
KB21

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I don't think anyone is strictly saying SEC coordinators but coordinators with SEC experience, especially SEC coordinator experience would be on a more preferred list. Lebby, Longo, Briles. But you are skipping Mike Denbrook, he is a very good OC at LSU. Has done good work with QB's as well.

Denbrock is also 59 years old. I'm not hiring a 59 year old first time head coach.
11-02-2023, 08:41 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I would say yes. Working under saban is good for the resume

He learns how to run a program. See Kirby Smart.
11-02-2023, 08:42 PM
KB21

I think what it boils down to is the fact that Grubb believes in throwing the football. Washington throws it more than 65% of the time. We got to get someone that is going to be a big dumb offense guy. How about Mike Bobo? We already have his OL coach, who's a big dumb offense guy.
11-02-2023, 08:43 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

He learns how to run a program. See Kirby Smart.

I'm sure it helped lane's career also
11-02-2023, 08:44 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I'm sure it helped lane's career also

Lane ain't stupid. I don't think he liked working for Saban at all, but he also knew he'd learn a lot too. And yea, it helped Lane a good bit IMO.
11-02-2023, 08:46 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by KB21

Denbrock is also 59 years old. I'm not hiring a 59 year old first time head coach.

He would be more qualified to be a HC over Arbuckle, Riley and Kittley. They are not ready to be HC's and struggling as OC this year. I'd consider Curt Cignetti before them, 62 is long in the tooth but he is at least a winner and the same age as Coach Leach would have been this year.
11-02-2023, 08:48 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by KB21

I think what it boils down to is the fact that Grubb believes in throwing the football. Washington throws it more than 65% of the time. We got to get someone that is going to be a big dumb offense guy. How about Mike Bobo? We already have his OL coach, who's a big dumb offense guy.

That had absolutely ZERO to do with my statement. I had no freakin clue how much he threw the football. He has LESS than 2 years as a P5 OC and he's on his 5th year as an OC. This is WORSE than Zach's situation. Quit being a dumbass.
11-02-2023, 08:49 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by KB21

I think what it boils down to is the fact that Grubb believes in throwing the football. Washington throws it more than 65% of the time. We got to get someone that is going to be a big dumb offense guy. How about Mike Bobo? We already have his OL coach, who's a big dumb offense guy.

No it doesn't. Quit trying to post narratives that are false whenever someone takes a differing view point on someone you bring up.
11-02-2023, 08:50 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

That had absolutely ZERO to do with my statement. I had no freakin clue how much he threw the football. He has LESS than 2 years as a P5 OC and he's on his 5th year as an OC. This is WORSE than Zach's situation. Quit being a dumbass.

He's just makes up false narratives when someone takes a different view point.
11-02-2023, 08:51 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

That had absolutely ZERO to do with my statement. I had no freakin clue how much he threw the football. He has LESS than 2 years as a P5 OC and he's on his 5th year as an OC. This is WORSE than Zach's situation. Quit being a dumbass.

KB really likes McDaniel of dolphins, so I think KB thinks a great, young OC will automatically work. The nfl is different than college though.

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