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10-11-2023, 01:31 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Santiago

I am reading this that Coach34 heard conversations to be confident on the post. He knows something.
Seems still to me it is a fluid situation though, and he needs to show improvement.

Good job. Also look at Rosey’s article today. The hints are out there
10-11-2023, 01:31 PM
viverlibre

I think most rational fans realize he's for sure back at 5-7 and likely back at 4-8, lose to USM, then lose to UM, he's likely gone.

If the wheels completely come off and we get blown out vs Ark, UK the Barn and OM, then he may be gone at 4-8
10-11-2023, 01:32 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I keep seeing all this bluster that we are going to fire Arnett and company. Threads already popping up about possible replacements and such. You guys did this during baseball when some of us kept telling you Lemon wasnt going to be fired and get another year. We saw what happened. Boosters told the AD he had permission to fire Fox but he wasnt getting the money to fire Lemon and the rest of the staff. The same is happening now- people that know people think Arnett is going to get a Y2.

Couple that with the bluster that Boosters are controlling things and glad to have their "ground and pound" guys on staff that are in Arnett's ear bears the question:

What makes you think those guys are going to give up that control after 1 season? What makes you think they are going to pony up to buyout Arnett? The AD doesnt fire anybody without permission from Keenum and the Foundation who have to pay the buyout. We dont have buyout money in our athletic budget. That money comes from the Foundation and/or private funds thru Keenum

Man, you working hard for your boys. Did Brad text you this?

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

If we don't win an SEC game and still keep Arnett, we're not serious about football and might as well just change our name to MSU commodores. We are on the brink of irrelevance as it is now.

This is it right here.

I'll get back on board if this staff can show me some serious improvement. Beat Arkansas and either Auburn or Kentucky and I can see giving Arnett next year too. But, at this point I see us 0-8 in the SEC w/ an absolute prison rape by ole miss.
10-11-2023, 01:33 PM
Santiago

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Good job. Also look at Rosey?s article today. The hints are out there

Hints, and a concerted effort to sell it on the fanbase in a reasonable way from what it seems.
We need some wins though.
edit: and I hate to say it, or think it, but we better not get blown out in Croom fashion against ole miss.
10-11-2023, 01:33 PM
viverlibre

At this point, 3-3, we are exactly where rational fans though we'd be.

As with most seasons, we have 5 toss up games, we've lost one (USCe), if we can get two of Ark, UK, the Barn or OM, we end 6-6 and the season looks much better. That is possible if Arnett gets more involved with the D and we just slow down opponents a little.

Vegas had our O/U at 6 1/2 wins.
10-11-2023, 01:34 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Good job. Also look at Rosey’s article today. The hints are out there

If he goes usm and winless from here out with blowouts and no fans on thanksgiving, ZS won't have a choice. There would be a revolt.
10-11-2023, 01:38 PM
KB21

If they keep him, it would be the most Mississippi State decision ever. Of course, this fanbase will get exactly what it deserves if that happens for how some treated a legendary coach. We will lose our better recruits because they know their skills will not be showcased under Barbay.
10-11-2023, 01:38 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by confucius say

If he goes usm and winless from here out with blowouts and no fans on thanksgiving, ZS won't have a choice. There would be a revolt.

I do agree that 0-8 in the SEC makes a change possible. I just don’t think we go 0-8
10-11-2023, 01:52 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by DesotoDog1967

Ole Miss wouldn't put up with another year if they weren't the one with a brash young national known coach like they have now. Wacky Leach counterbalanced Kiffin. Arnett is in permanent little brother status

No they wouldn't. They'd let him lose his last 5 games while he's openly trying to get another job and then give him a 2+ mil raise.
10-11-2023, 01:54 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by KB21

If they keep him, it would be the most Mississippi State decision ever. Of course, this fanbase will get exactly what it deserves if that happens for how some treated a legendary coach. We will lose our better recruits because they know their skills will not be showcased under Barbay.

Actually Barbay and Bump and the biggest reasons our best WR recruits are bought in with this class.
10-11-2023, 01:56 PM
HancockCountyDog

Its pretty simple - if he goes 6-6 or better he is safe.

He goes 5-7 and beats the bears, he is most likely safe.

He goes 4-8 or 5-7 with a loss to the bears, he is most likely not safe.

The issue that people are ignoring is that everyone with eyes understands that next year is a rebuilding year. Its hard to sell a rebuilding year in year 2, after winning less than 6 games in year 1. Most people won't think that the same coach that coached a senior laden team the prior year is the right guy for a rebuilding job. Toledo is one of the best teams in the MAC and Arizona State may have Jaden Rashada still on their team next year.
10-11-2023, 01:56 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

No they wouldn't. They'd let him lose his last 5 games while he's openly trying to get another job and then give him a 2+ mil raise.

He's right^^^
10-11-2023, 01:56 PM
KB21

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Actually Barbay and Bump and the biggest reasons our best WR recruits are bought in with this class.

Those recruits committed before they realized how little the WRs are used in this offense.
10-11-2023, 02:03 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by KB21

Those recruits committed before they realized how little the WRs are used in this offense.

BS. We wouldn't have ever gotten one of them committed if we had stayed with the previous offense and position coach.
10-11-2023, 02:07 PM
KB21

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

BS. We wouldn't have ever gotten one of them committed if we had stayed with the previous offense and position coach.

Yeah, because we all know WRs really want to play in an offense where they don't get touches.
10-11-2023, 02:07 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

No they wouldn't. They'd let him lose his last 5 games while he's openly trying to get another job and then give him a 2+ mil raise.

This is correct.
10-11-2023, 02:09 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by KB21

Yeah, because we all know WRs really want to play in an offense where they don't get touches.

You can keep spewing your ignorance but they are the reason we even got the commitment. It's wasn't happening with the previous staff.
10-11-2023, 02:11 PM
KB21

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

You can keep spewing your ignorance but they are the reason we even got the commitment. It's wasn't happening with the previous staff.

Keep trying to convince yourself of that.
10-11-2023, 02:17 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I do agree that 0-8 in the SEC makes a change possible. I just don?t think we go 0-8

Basically every model out there has us losing every SEC game. That’s why we are discussing this. The chances of us going 0-8 in the SEC are relatively high, % wise.
10-11-2023, 02:17 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by KB21

Keep trying to convince yourself of that.

I don't have convince myself of an actual fact. Lol.

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