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09-27-2023, 02:20 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think we're poorly coached on both sides of the ball from watching us.

Sure, some time to adjust was expected on offense. However, there are a lot of things that stick out like a sore thumb. There were a lot of teams that are installing a new offense this year in the SEC- which is a big reason why losing Leach was so big. We would be in year four with more WR talent than we have ever had. As it is we leveled the playing field because of the decision of our coaches. And the fact is that despite other teams installing new offenses ours has performed worse than most and we seem to look very sloppy. South Carolina for example is also installing a new scheme and they looked a lot cleaner than us.

Defense- yes, I agree that we lack speed and talent however Arnett learning to be a head coach while also trying to manage that side of the ball at least to a degree along with Brock who is also a first year DC adds to the struggles.

I'm pretty sure we're 3-1 at this point with Leach with a much more competitive loss to LSU or perhaps even a close win with the experience we have and a defense focused Arnett.

100% against the air raid dude right here admitting that we are 100% 3-1 right now if Leach was still here. Knowing that we would finish 9-3 or better.
09-27-2023, 06:45 AM
KB21

Zach Arnett is letting Brad Peterson set him up to fail.
09-27-2023, 07:16 AM
Leroy Jenkins

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Originally Posted by KB21

Zach Arnett is letting Brad Peterson set him up to fail.

Watching them on the sideline....

https://64.media.tumblr.com/56919c94...837670621.gifv
09-27-2023, 08:09 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm sure they collaborate some. Or they should be.

Per Cole, the OC absolutely went to Rogers and had that talk and we absolutely saw wide splits again in some plays.
09-27-2023, 09:16 AM
Santiago

So is Peterson the little birdie in CZA's ear, and part of the reason the old offensive staff was all let go? I really could not understand letting Mason Miller go, and the QB coach also.
I was supporting Arnett until he lied about saying he would change very little on offense, and then did a 180. Also, a few weeks ago him telling SEC network guys he wanted an offense that kept his defense off the field. Geeze, Coach Leach nearly led the league each year or at the top for time of possession.
So at that point the week of the LSU game hearing that I checked out on believing CZA since he is now publicly full of S**& twice.

edit: So I assume Peterson is the reason Miller was let go, to make room for his buddy as OL coach.
09-27-2023, 09:18 AM
louisvilledawg

I audibly laughed when he showed the play where literally nobody was blocked. it was so awful it was actually funny.
09-27-2023, 09:20 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by louisvilledawg

I audibly laughed when he showed the play where literally nobody was blocked. it was so awful it was actually funny.

Yep. and again... what personnel was that!
09-27-2023, 09:29 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Santiago

So is Peterson the little birdie in CZA's ear, and part of the reason the old offensive staff was all let go? I really could not understand letting Mason Miller go, and the QB coach also.
I was supporting Arnett until he lied about saying he would change very little on offense, and then did a 180. Also, a few weeks ago him telling SEC network guys he wanted an offense that kept his defense off the field. Geeze, Coach Leach nearly led the league each year or at the top for time of possession.
So at that point the week of the LSU game hearing that I checked out on believing CZA since he is now publicly full of S**& twice.

edit: So I assume Peterson is the reason Miller was let go, to make room for his buddy as OL coach.

Hollinghead was going to be an OC somewhere anyway. I can't put that on Peterson.
09-27-2023, 09:33 AM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by Santiago

So is Peterson the little birdie in CZA's ear, and part of the reason the old offensive staff was all let go? I really could not understand letting Mason Miller go, and the QB coach also.
I was supporting Arnett until he lied about saying he would change very little on offense, and then did a 180. Also, a few weeks ago him telling SEC network guys he wanted an offense that kept his defense off the field. Geeze, Coach Leach nearly led the league each year or at the top for time of possession.
So at that point the week of the LSU game hearing that I checked out on believing CZA since he is now publicly full of S**& twice.

edit: So I assume Peterson is the reason Miller was let go, to make room for his buddy as OL coach.

Idk if it is 100% true, but there's enough smoke to make me believe a lot of these changes we are experiencing have Peterson's fingers all over them. Now that's on Arnett for giving in if true. He's a grown man and can say no.
09-27-2023, 09:35 AM
Santiago

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Hollinghead was going to be an OC somewhere anyway. I can't put that on Peterson.

Who talked Arnett out of keeping the offense similar, as he publicly claimed.
09-27-2023, 09:41 AM
tcdog70

ML was successful at Schools like-WSU-Texas Tech and here was because He was different and kept it simple. Repetition was what he harped on. Everyone was on the same page. He could win with lesser talent. I know if Will had some mobility ML would have won 10 games the last 2 years.

our problem now is we don't know WTF we are doing. The tight end is a bust . we would be better served with Creed on the field as a hot receiver. Or I would rather have Pittman out there with Woody. everytime we run a TE on the field it is bad. Put the OL back to where they played last year. 66 was better at tackle than at guard. Move Smith back to guard and put laysoia back at Center.

on defense please let Arnett take over. right now it is a cluster . on a positive note our special teams are great.
09-27-2023, 10:04 AM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by KB21

Zach Arnett is letting Brad Peterson set him up to fail.

Can someone elaborate on this more? I know Peterson has been around the block but he and Arnett have no real history. They didn't go to school together, play together or coach together. Why would CZA do whatever Peterson recommends? Or is CZA just not sure what to do so he just takes advice from anyone (which is a scary thought and surely not true).
09-27-2023, 10:25 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Can someone elaborate on this more? I know Peterson has been around the block but he and Arnett have no real history. They didn't go to school together, play together or coach together. Why would CZA do whatever Peterson recommends? Or is CZA just not sure what to do so he just takes advice from anyone (which is a scary thought and surely not true).

What actually happened is that after some more time passed from Leach's death- Arnett simply decided he wanted his program to be in his image and beliefs. Physical offense that hits for big plays. Some of the offensive assts left because they didnt get the OC job and wanted to be OC. Pete is not the Great Oz behind the curtain pulling levers. That is message board myth

Spurrier Jr got an OC job at Tulsa. 95th in Scoring so far this season
Hollingshead is at WK as OC- so he wasnt going to stay unless he was OC. KB was bragging all over him until his last 2 week performances
09-27-2023, 10:33 AM
KB21

I highly doubt the rumors are a myth considering that Arnett hired the OL coach and other assistants before hiring the coordinator. Particularly when said coordinator wants to run a wide zone scheme, and neither OL coach knows how to teach the wide zone blocking scheme.
09-27-2023, 10:43 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by KB21

I highly doubt the rumors are a myth considering that Arnett hired the OL coach and other assistants before hiring the coordinator. Particularly when said coordinator wants to run a wide zone scheme, and neither OL coach knows how to teach the wide zone blocking scheme.

and this is how you know its a myth. Veteran coaches are already versed in most schemes and can learn what they dont extremely quickly.

aGAIN- the OL's problem is that they have faced a shit ton of drop 8 the last 3 years and they arent getting that anymore.
09-27-2023, 10:46 AM
KB21

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Originally Posted by Coach34

and this is how you know its a myth. Veteran coaches are already versed in most schemes and can learn what they dont extremely quickly.

aGAIN- the OL's problem is that they have faced a shit ton of drop 8 the last 3 years and they arent getting that anymore.

Yeah. You can tell that by the fact that they aren't taking the proper steps on the wide zone. You can't teach the wide zone like you teach gap schemes or inside zone. Will Friend wasn't a good coach anyway. He's especially bad at trying to teach the wide zone.
09-27-2023, 10:52 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

What actually happened is that after some more time passed from Leach's death- Arnett simply decided he wanted his program to be in his image and beliefs. Physical offense that hits for big plays. Some of the offensive assts left because they didnt get the OC job and wanted to be OC. Pete is not the Great Oz behind the curtain pulling levers. That is message board myth

Spurrier Jr got an OC job at Tulsa. 95th in Scoring so far this season
Hollingshead is at WK as OC- so he wasnt going to stay unless he was OC. KB was bragging all over him until his last 2 week performances

This.
09-27-2023, 11:25 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

and this is how you know its a myth. Veteran coaches are already versed in most schemes and can learn what they dont extremely quickly.

aGAIN- the OL's problem is that they have faced a shit ton of drop 8 the last 3 years and they arent getting that anymore.

BS!
09-27-2023, 11:29 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

This.

Fact is, the OL is confused when blocking in a 11 or 12. That's obvious and gets broken down on film every week. That's on coaching. No matter how you slice it. They did a poor job training them for it.

I say that to say this, When Bama is pooring through that OL in 11 or 12, I don't want to hear how bad Rogers is. I want to hear why we are still forcing a square peg in a round hole.
09-27-2023, 11:54 AM
KB21

The only thing Brad Peterson should have any involvement in is recruiting. He should not have any input on scheme, play calling, or coach hirings.

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