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09-17-2023, 10:19 PM
MBDawg601

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

I think you all need to step back from the ledge. We got blown out several times under Leach. LSU is better than last year, yes they lost to FSU, but had plenty of chances in that one. If we stick with Will all the way through USCe and he continues to stink (and we don't make a change early in the game), then panic.

If Leach was coaching this year, we'd be set up for 8 or 9 wins, but he's gone so we have to come to grips with that.

My biggest concern is that other teams are getting better through the portal and we are not. The coaching is going to come together, switching schemes is harder than fans think. Had it been me, I'd probably kept last years staff, but whatever reason, Arnett chose not to and for the long term that be may the right choice, but there's going to be ass pain in the short term.

We had 79 yards of offense in 1 complete half of football and gave up 300.

Growing pains?
09-17-2023, 10:51 PM
Kingbarkus

1. Leach wins that game yesterday. Maybe a tough, close loss.

2. 2 years ago we needed 2 more minutes of clock time. Slingblade went to man defense and we carved them up in the 4th quarter. Ran out of time.

3. Last year the guy who did our game said Mississippi State was the better team. Rogers stunk in the second half.

Some of y?all need to realize how discombobulated this team is now.
09-17-2023, 10:56 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Kingbarkus

1. Leach wins that game yesterday. Maybe a tough, close loss.

2. 2 years ago we needed 2 more minutes of clock time. Slingblade went to man defense and we carved them up in the 4th quarter. Ran out of time.

3. Last year the guy who did our game said Mississippi State was the better team. Rogers stunk in the second half.

Some of y?all need to realize how discombobulated this team is now.

Your point # 1, No
09-17-2023, 11:06 PM
Maverick91

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Your point # 1, No

No Leach wins yesterday. I know it is only one play but the first throw was a scripted air raid round. Everyone on State’s offense knew he was throwing to Robinson. If we would have kept that type of “air raid” concept throws all game its a game into the 4th. Will can make those as he is throwing to a spot not hitting a moving target, which he has never been really good at.
09-17-2023, 11:08 PM
Kingbarkus

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Your point # 1, No

Yes
09-18-2023, 01:11 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by civildawg

I'm almost certain his buyout isn't the guaranteed money left on his contract. Pretty sure I remember it being a very low buyout just in case year one turned out bad

Yeah. I don't know what the buyout is but I would imagine the leash isn't very long with Arnett.
09-18-2023, 01:13 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

If we lose to South Carolina we are looking at 4-8/5-7. If we finish 5-7 he'll get the second year with expectations of making a bowl game. If we finish 4-8 he'll be fired by Selmon. We cannot accept a 4-8 finish. That hole is just too deep. That's Croom level failure that cannot be allowed to fester. Even JoMo had two winning seasons and we canned him. Dan finished 5-7 his first year but we were coming off of five years of Croom and that was a scrappy team that fought in every game. 4-8 now for this program is abject failure and cannot be tolerated.

Depending on his things look and play out it wouldn't shock me if we fire him for 6-6.
09-18-2023, 01:44 AM
Cowbell

I can't believe you guys are having this discussion. This season is going similar to year one in the air raid. Does CZA not get a chance to purge malcontents. Does he not get a chance to get his offensive recruits in place? I remember Leach blaming his players for every loss. I remember him making fun of reviewers just last year with his alligator arms speech. We have a coach now that takes the blame and y'all are ready to fire him after his first loss ever?!
09-18-2023, 05:35 AM
Pancho

No purge of malcontents needed. just allow the many who will have no eligibility leave and he'll have 30 spots open.
09-18-2023, 06:01 AM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

HAHAHHA!!

Noway you believe that! None. Prime just booted the whole friggin team and brought in players from the portal.

Yep and Colorado is an NIL powerhouse too. We have no chance.***
09-18-2023, 06:07 AM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I can't believe you guys are having this discussion. This season is going similar to year one in the air raid. Does CZA not get a chance to purge malcontents. Does he not get a chance to get his offensive recruits in place? I remember Leach blaming his players for every loss. I remember him making fun of reviewers just last year with his alligator arms speech. We have a coach now that takes the blame and y'all are ready to fire him after his first loss ever?!

There are issues but the air raid crowd having their dreams come true right now. We played 500 ball, won 3 games one year and 9 another (didn't beat any great teams in that either) carried by the D but the air raid is the greatest offense ever. If a team throws the ball once they say that team runs the air raid. Air raid lovers had a melt down when we ran the ball for 300 yards and won.

We have issues but give the guy a chance and give the air raid BS a rest.

I and everyone else knew this was going to happen if we didn't win 10 games this year.
09-18-2023, 06:53 AM
viverlibre

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Depending on his things look and play out it wouldn't shock me if we fire him for 6-6.

I just don't see us firing him short of 4-8 (o-fer in conference). His was so unprepared/inexperienced, we knew there'd be growing pains.
09-18-2023, 07:02 AM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

I just don't see us firing him short of 4-8 (o-fer in conference). His was so unprepared/inexperienced, we knew there'd be growing pains.

We can’t afford growing pains in this era of football. Anything less than 7-5, Arnett should be asked to resign.

If we let him “grow” we will get left behind everyone else.
09-18-2023, 07:07 AM
Maroonthirteen

My prediction is &elmon doesn't fire anyone. He waits any big fire/hires out until he finds another job and avoids our messes.
09-18-2023, 07:08 AM
civildawg

Let's not forget that next year is supposed to be a rebuilding year so do people actually believe we will any better next year? Odds are, we will be worse
09-18-2023, 07:11 AM
viverlibre

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

We can’t afford growing pains in this era of football. Anything less than 7-5, Arnett should be asked to resign.

If we let him “grow” we will get left behind everyone else.

If we had rehired Dan or hired Gus, then I agree, but we didn't. Just go back at look at how time Arnett's resume is.
09-18-2023, 07:21 AM
Offshore Dawg

If you had taken the over on Colorado, you have your money already !!
09-18-2023, 07:24 AM
Offshore Dawg

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Originally Posted by civildawg

Let's not forget that next year is supposed to be a rebuilding year so do people actually believe we will any better next year? Odds are, we will be worse

Dawgs can have a worse record but look a lot better doing it.
09-18-2023, 07:30 AM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg

Dawgs can have a worse record but look a lot better doing it.

It’ll be hard to be much than the 4-8 we are about to experience.
09-18-2023, 07:33 AM
defiantdog

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Yep and Colorado is an NIL powerhouse too. We have no chance.***

Colorado is a 21 point underdog to Oregon this week. We'll see who they really are especially since Travis Hunter is out.

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