Anyone remember our 3rd game under leach?

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

DD, we got a long way to go on this offense to win 6. Making a bowl game would be an achievement.

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Eh, we will win at least 6. This should be an 8-win team though, so arnett should be on the hot seat for 6 wins

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

This offense performs best with a QB like Mike Wright not Will Rogers. Arnett and Barbay better get a clue quick. Barbay can?t call QB keepers and a read option bc Will can?t do it. I thought Will was Tyler Russell in this offense but he?s looking more like Mike Henig.

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Say what you want about Henig, but he had balls. He played with plates holding his collar bone together and rebroke it. He gets my respect and Will could learn a lot from him in that regard.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Eh, we will win at least 6. This should be an 8-win team though, so arnett should be on the hot seat for 6 wins

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Yeah I agree with this. We got work to do.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Lost 24-2.

Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks

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What a typical missippy tate response.

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Originally Posted by Biguglyjoe

Say what you want about Henig, but he had balls. He played with plates holding his collar bone together and rebroke it. He gets my respect and Will could learn a lot from him in that regard.

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Mike couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and that's what I'm talking about. Tyler Russell was a decent passer but couldn't run a lick.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Eh, we will win at least 6. This should be an 8-win team though, so arnett should be on the hot seat for 6 wins

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Watching our next opponent playing Georgia. We are a 6 win team.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

What a typical missippy tate response.

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Today was awful. We lost this game when we decided to change our offense. Changing the offense was about long term success. Was arnett right or wrong? Who knows, but he did it, so there will be pains in the transition.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Today was awful. We lost this game when we decided to change our offense. Changing the offense was about long term success. Was arnett right or wrong? Who knows, but he did it, so there will be pains in the transition.

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Kidney stone level pain at that.

Damn.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Lost 24-2.

Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks

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We weren't transitioning in 2020?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Today was awful. We lost this game when we decided to change our offense. Changing the offense was about long term success. Was arnett right or wrong? Who knows, but he did it, so there will be pains in the transition.

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Barbay will not be here for long if this keeps up. He literally has two different styles of QB that have won in the SEC and he can't figure out how to use either one.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We weren't transitioning in 2020?

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Yes, that's why we scored 2. Transitions suck when you make drastic changes. Leach did much better after his initial season, and I hope arnett can do the same.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Barbay will not be here for long if this keeps up. He literally has two different styles of QB that have won in the SEC and he can't figure out how to use either one.

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He and arnett better get better fast. No argument

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Eh, we will win at least 6. This should be an 8-win team though, so arnett should be on the hot seat for 6 wins

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He was dumb to switch offenses with these players. MSU was dumb for not doing a national search.

This is a similar situation as Moorhead without the blatant lack of team discipline.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

He was dumb to switch offenses with these players. MSU was dumb for not doing a national search.

This is a similar situation as Moorhead without the blatant lack of team discipline.

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Again, I won't argue with this either. I hated the arnett hire. Zach may be great, but I felt the hire was lazy. I thought the hire was about just maintaining continuity, but then he blew it up. Just don't understand what we were doing

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Today was awful. We lost this game when we decided to change our offense. Changing the offense was about long term success. Was arnett right or wrong? Who knows, but he did it, so there will be pains in the transition.

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What is typical is that no one sees the big picture. Our fate was sealed when the NIL came into existence and we failed to get out in front of that. The attitude that we just need to suck it up and good things will come won?t cut it anymore. That ship sailed. The game has fundamentally changed and we failed to foresee the changes. We got in to late are are reaping what we sowed do to our inability to react quickly and to do as we have always done, move as slowly or as conservatively as possible. This paralysis by over analysis has serve to put our programs back further and further.

South Florida playing hard against Alabama. We never had intensity close to that today. We play like we don't care and go through the motions.

To go along with Trap's point, please tell me where these 3 wins will come from to get to 6-6.

We went to OT with ARIZONA at home. We will not win on the road vs an SC team that recruits much better and pays its coaches more than Zona. Similarly, Kentucky will come here and us.

Western Michigan and USM are 2 wins.

So we've got to win 2 of the following: @Auburn, @Arky, @A&M, or vs an OM team that would hand 70 on our defense if we played today. Maybe we win at Auburn, but they didn't need OT to beat Cal and their HC is much better than ours. They'll improve and I'm not sure we will. Arky doesn't look good but home field and a better QB and quite possibly a better defense too say otherwise.

Can anyone say today's performance looked better than SE LA? hard to compare the competition levels but I'd say no, we didn't look like we improved from week 1.

Overall, Will overthrew screens, deep balls, out routes, and under threw some too. Was 11/28. Took unnecessary sacks. Defense was AWFUL. OL can't block. What team can you beat with a statue QB that can't throw, an OL that can't block, and a bad D? I can't predict us to beat anyone. Maybe we do get 2 SEC wins to get to 6-6 but I don't see it.

We have to change the offense, or change the QB. I don't care which one, but can't keep both.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Yes, that's why we scored 2. Transitions suck when you make drastic changes. Leach did much better after his initial season, and I hope arnett can do the same.

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Again, NOT the same.

- Barbay... full spring and off season and summer.

- Leach, No spring. Not much summer. Player testing to covid... etc.


Not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

To go along with Trap's point, please tell me where these 3 wins will come from to get to 6-6.

We went to OT with ARIZONA at home. We will not win on the road vs an SC team that recruits much better and pays its coaches more than Zona. Similarly, Kentucky will come here and us.

Western Michigan and USM are 2 wins.

So we've got to win 2 of the following: @Auburn, @Arky, @A&M, or vs an OM team that would hand 70 on our defense if we played today. Maybe we win at Auburn, but they didn't need OT to beat Cal and their HC is much better than ours. They'll improve and I'm not sure we will. Arky doesn't look good but home field and a better QB and quite possibly a better defense too say otherwise.

Can anyone say today's performance looked better than SE LA? hard to compare the competition levels but I'd say no, we didn't look like we improved from week 1.

Overall, Will overthrew screens, deep balls, out routes, and under threw some too. Was 11/28. Took unnecessary sacks. Defense was AWFUL. OL can't block. What team can you beat with a statue QB that can't throw, an OL that can't block, and a bad D? I can't predict us to beat anyone. Maybe we do get 2 SEC wins to get to 6-6 but I don't see it.

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we are 2-1.

We need 4 wins.