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Why should he get a 3rd chance? Why is back to back missing Hoover (which hasn't happened in decades, even the end of Polk 2) not enough for us to move on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Why SHOULD "Lemonizick" get a 3rd season but not say, Moorhead?
I also wonder why you retired your little nickname for him
Tenn shouldn't even be in the conversation, but they got an elite coach. Lemonis seems to pull us down, not elevate us like VitelloQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The problem i have is we just wasted another year when anyone with common sense can see he is Moorhead 2.0Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Because he's the only coach in State history to win it all. The. Only. One.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
And Coach seems to have had a life reflection since his NDE, and has decided to see the positive side of things in life instead of being so damn negative all the time. He probably learned life is too short to be focused on negatives, and rather enjoy all the positives we do have because that is a way better outlook on life.
People can change opinions and grow, even in old age. That's a good quality to have and more people need to have it.
You didn't get the memo? We had to keep the crootin' class together, wink, wink.......Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Lemonizick did guide us to our first and only NC. That's the only reason. But I too wanted him gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I wouldn't say that Vitello elevates anyone.....his teams are absolute trash as far as character goes and that lack of character is why they choke every post season.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
They literally made the CWS this season. He's an outstanding coachQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezsoil
Moorhead was fired over off the field issues- same as Stands. That's just not tolerated in StarkVegasQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
But they are. They have gone CWS, Super, CWS the last 3 seasons. They are pumping money into baseball. Right now- they are viewed as a top SEC baseball program.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying if you flipped our coaches, Tenn is still garbage and we're right there with the elitesQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Wait. Are you saying Lemonis would Coach Tennessee the way Polk II coached <his boys> at State, and Vitello would Coach State players to practice and play with a hard edge and a chip on their shoulders pushing the limits of friendly competition to more of a Forceful Intimidation?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I think I might prefer the latter.
He played the worst game of his career in the egg bowl and we won. The WRs did suck. Especially the outside guys all year long. Both are factsQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I agree with you on a lot of things but this is some Everette level thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This is correctQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You cannot reward Tennessee for their recent momentum (due to a new coach) while at the same time discounting our fall from success. That's a double standard. Tennessee is not the baseball program we are year in and out. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I'm talking perception and the way recruits look the programs. Auburn is pretty much the same. Both programs have alot of momentum but Tenn is the sexy girl right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Our last 2 seasons have nothing to do with my view of us. We havent won the SEC in 33 years. Facts is facts my man. Thank goodness we finally got a championship but so does Coastal Carolina. Our fans put too much stock in crowds. SC football has great attendance also- but that doesnt elevate their football standing. What does? Winning big games
2016 was 33 years ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This is Larry Templeton endorsed thinking. This is how one would justify how MSU nearly destroyed baseball in the 2000s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
The decline in performance was malpractice and incompetence, not destiny
Exactly, C34 can't remember an SEC baseball championship from just 7 years ago? And we have historically held our own recruiting against LSU in baseball when our program is performing like it should. Hard to recruit against any top program right now with our results from the past 2 seasons. That's the main issue. Even when LSU has not been at the top.of the league I can't ever remember them falling to the absolute bottom like we have the last 2 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking