Who's responsible for the branding?

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Have hated MState logo since day 1. I am a '77 State grad and my son is now a '23 grad. I have asked before when asked where you went to college, graduated from college, or which college sports team you support, how many people have ever replied, "MState"? OM had the red "M" before us and we are Johnny Come Lately and put a State ribbon across it and force it down our fans' throats. Another example of why so many people in the sports world mix the two schools up. When people ask me where I went to school, grad of, or support, I always reply State or Mississippi State! Bring back MSU! Hail Yeah!

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You've taken flogging a dead horse to a new level. Guys like you elevate it to a new life form. To quote Sly Stallone in "First Blood": "LET IT GO!!"

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Originally Posted by schddog72

You've taken flogging a dead horse to a new level. Guys like you elevate it to a new life form. To quote Sly Stallone in "First Blood": "LET IT GO!!"

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Guess you graduated from "MState".*****. To each his own.

The banner sucks.

I'm cool with script, interlocking, MoverS, or quite literally anything else.

The whole "branding" excuse is BS. Locally, we're known as state. Regionally, we're known as state. Who gives a 17 what were known as nationally. Most people can't tell the difference between us and Ole Miss anyway. Who cares what they think?

The fans want it. It looks better. Make it happen.

Regardless of the legends of napkins and etc that attempts to discredit the MState logo, the best AD that State has employed, Greg Byrne, consulted with a national firm and University officials and created the branding that Mississippi State uses today. They thought of enough of the original MState logo that it was edited but is the university logo. They came up with a number of logos and options durinf that branding. It is interesting that none of the branding designs included a diagonal msu.

As for the passive argument of what OleMiss used or uses....OM has used a "script" logo for years now. Also the baseball "script" &tate, was first used by Michigan State basketball in the 70s and used again on their football helmet in 2021 to currently.

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Guess you graduated from "MState".*****. To each his own.

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Yes, I most certainly did, 1972. And I'll add one more comment: Having lived outside Mississippi since I graduated, that banner M logo has gotten me more "Hail State"'s than anything else I've ever worn. Now that we're finally recognized, why go backwards again towards something that might not be easily recognizable?

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Also the baseball "script" &tate, was first used by Michigan State basketball in the 70s

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We actually started using the script State in baseball in 1959, well before Michigan State basketball

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

We actually started using the script State in baseball in 1959, well before Michigan State basketball

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Yeah but still

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

My best ever MSU polo shirt was an interlocking "MSU" that was stolen from me. A crackhead smashed my windshield outside of a Paea Restaurant in suburban New Jersey. Awesome Paea, but my laundry bag and a pair of shoes were stolen from my car.

That shirt was so epic, Texas A&M dweebs would walk up and say "howdie" at airports and then contort their face when they realized it was an MSU logo on my glorious polo. Interlocking M-S-U on white hearing-bone pattern, like a subtle watermark. I had a white one that got a mustard stain and the maroon that got stolen.

I had a French Tennis girl approach me in Paris, "are you a coach". But so epic was this glorious shirt, that Italian people in Rome would stop and look me over, my wife thought it was rude. But I explained, "my shirt is a work of art".

Never get the same looks from M-State junk. No idea where the shirt came from, my mom sent it to me as a present.

Medium broad hearing bone pattern, shaded-white-on-white, with a white-collar. Maroon version with the same features. No pipping except on the edge of the collar.

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Nice. Impressive. Let's see Paul Allen's M-over-S.

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Originally Posted by schddog72

Yes, I most certainly did, 1972. And I'll add one more comment: Having lived outside Mississippi since I graduated, that banner M logo has gotten me more "Hail State"'s than anything else I've ever worn. Now that we're finally recognized, why go backwards again towards something that might not be easily recognizable?

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Not for me. I've never once been approached by a rival fan as calling us "M-State" or "Mississippi State", it's always been "State" or "MSU". You're in the minority brother and will be losing your awful banner for good in the near future.

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Guess you graduated from "MState".*****. To each his own.

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Back in the late 60's and early70's the window sticker/decals that I remember seeing was MISS STATE.

From the 1970 Reville

https://ia600304.us.archive.org/Book...ale=4&rotate=0

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Back in the late 60's and early70's the window sticker/decals that I remember seeing was MISS STATE.

From the 1970 Reville

https://ia600304.us.archive.org/Book...ale=4&rotate=0

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You Sir, have a very keen eye to have spotted the MISS STATE decal on the back of a VW among the pictures of all those beautiful MSU/State coeds in those years! Hail State, Indeed!

Bingo.

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Originally Posted by msu15

You're in the minority brother and will be losing your awful banner for good in the near future.

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that would be great news

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

You Sir, have a very keen eye to have spotted the MISS STATE decal on the back of a VW among the pictures of all those beautiful MSU/State coeds in those years! Hail State, Indeed!

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I remember seeing that Bug or one like it on the Coast back in the early 70's and it always has stuck with me. All the State students, fans had that decal in the back window.

I like the banner M. Works great in a variety of applications (not all) plus it's a well-established brand at this point. I can spot the banner M on the back of a car a mile away. It's also great for social media profile specs which is a big consideration for modern branding (I have this talk quite often with marketing clients).

edited: meant to say I do agree with pushing "State" for certain applications as well. I love the script State helmets as an example.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

I like the banner M. Works great in a variety of applications (not all) plus it's a well-established brand at this point. I can spot the banner M on the back of a car a mile away. It's also great for social media profile specs which is a big consideration for modern branding (I have this talk quite often with marketing clients).

edited: meant to say I do agree with pushing "State" for certain applications as well. I love the script State helmets as an example.

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I think from a branding and university logo perspective, it's fine. Even though the A isn't centered, it's an okay looking official logo.

It looks like ass on a football helmet, football field, or any other athletic uniform though. Keep it on the water tower and university flyers and let athletics have their own set of logos that don't look like upside down, maroon butterflies

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I think from a branding and university logo perspective, it's fine. Even though the A isn't centered

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Here is the personal website of your buddy that came up with that observation about the MState logo that you repeat over and over.

http://http://graysonweir.com

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Here is the personal website of your buddy that came up with that observation about the MState logo that you repeat over and over.

http://http://graysonweir.com

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My buddy? I don't know what the hell you're talking about?