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Originally Posted by confucius say

And next time y'all want to bang on will, feel free to do so but know that he turned down nearly 10 times what he is getting to stay.

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Alex, I'll take things that never happened for $500.

I know some idiots tried to start a rumor the barn offered him a big NIL deal, but he's the opposite of what Freeze needs in a QB. I could certainly see Saban or Jimbo taking Will as an insurance policy, but I doubt he'd be offered 7 figures either place. Don't get me wrong, I love the kid and think he'll do better than expected next season, but there's a reason no one outside the MSU family talks about him despite being a record setting QB.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The common fan is doing what they can do, for the most part in my opinion. We need our big boosters to step up and play ball the way they are in basketball and baseball. We can get on here and make the little guy feel like they need to choose between paying the mortgage or keeping a DT, or the people who can donate a couple hundred thousand / millions without blinking an eye can do what other schools big boys are doing. I'm not directing this at you, particularly.

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No I agree. The money it takes to be a cigar boy is far above my means. But that is who it is going to take

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

Alex, I'll take things that never happened for $500.

I know some idiots tried to start a rumor the barn offered him a big NIL deal, but he's the opposite of what Freeze needs in a QB. I could certainly see Saban or Jimbo taking Will as an insurance policy, but I doubt he'd be offered 7 figures either place. Don't get me wrong, I love the kid and think he'll do better than expected next season, but there's a reason no one outside the MSU family talks about him despite being a record setting QB.

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What is talking out my ass on a message board?


It was no rumor. And its not a rumor now

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

What is talking out my ass on a message board?


It was no rumor. And its not a rumor now

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Ok, a seasoned coach in a new job, high-pressure job, who has made his fame with QBs who can use their feet to extend plays and take deep shots is going to change his entire philosophy (that has been proven to work)? Not to mention he used the aforementioned QB play to beat Saban twice (back to back). Read that out loud and you'll see how silly it sounds.

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Originally Posted by SilentSteel16

Compassion International is a wonderful organization and have recently picked up our second child, the first one just graduated the program and going to Nursing school.

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That's awesome. God is good, all the time.

Tulu or Tolu?

Nobody we have has been offered 4 million or even close to my knowledge. But as I said months ago we had way more money thrown at a certain player. A number we can never match. Our nil is being handled as well as it can considering funds in place. Amazing would be a better word. Long term, if you want to win better pony up. Or we are toast in football

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

Ok, a seasoned coach in a new job, high-pressure job, who has made his fame with QBs who can use their feet to extend plays and take deep shots is going to change his entire philosophy (that has been proven to work)? Not to mention he used the aforementioned QB play to beat Saban twice (back to back). Read that out loud and you'll see how silly it sounds.

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Man. Idk what to tell you. I am sorry you don?t Iike it and it challenges your beliefs but yes, it happened. And one school has tampered with him twice. He is not the only one. You acting like Will cant hold a candle to Bo Wallace is just as silly as what you are spinning. He will never ever be good enough for some of you. But the facts are the facts

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Nobody we have has been offered 4 million or even close to my knowledge. But as I said months ago we had way more money thrown at a certain player. A number we can never match. Our nil is being handled as well as it can considering funds in place. Amazing would be a better word. Long term, if you want to win better pony up. Or we are toast in football

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It is what it is. I did not mean to blow any minds or tip over the apple cart

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

Alex, I'll take things that never happened for $500.

I know some idiots tried to start a rumor the barn offered him a big NIL deal, but he's the opposite of what Freeze needs in a QB. I could certainly see Saban or Jimbo taking Will as an insurance policy, but I doubt he'd be offered 7 figures either place. Don't get me wrong, I love the kid and think he'll do better than expected next season, but there's a reason no one outside the MSU family talks about him despite being a record setting QB.

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You are clueless about what's going with NIL deals.

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

Alex, I'll take things that never happened for $500.

I know some idiots tried to start a rumor the barn offered him a big NIL deal, but he's the opposite of what Freeze needs in a QB. I could certainly see Saban or Jimbo taking Will as an insurance policy, but I doubt he'd be offered 7 figures either place. Don't get me wrong, I love the kid and think he'll do better than expected next season, but there's a reason no one outside the MSU family talks about him despite being a record setting QB.

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Money is no object to a lot of these schools. Will is an average player in this league, but he is an upgrade to Auburn’s quarterback room so that’s why they were willing to spend the money on him. Average is better than the complete trash that they currently have, so they will do what it takes financially to get the best available prospect to them. It’s all relative to what else is available for you to get. It’s economics. Quarterbacks are in high demand and SEC caliber ones are almost nonexistent. If you find a competent one when your current roster doesn’t have one and your alumni has a shit ton of money, you end up with average players getting big time money offers.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Man. Idk what to tell you. I am sorry you don?t Iike it and it challenges your beliefs but yes, it happened. And one school has tampered with him twice. He is not the only one. You acting like Will cant hold a candle to Bo Wallace is just as silly as what you are spinning. He will never ever be good enough for some of you. But the facts are the facts

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It has nothing to do with him being better or worse, it's that he doesn't fit their scheme, in fact he's the polar opposite of what Freezus does with QBs.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Money is no object to a lot of these schools. Will is an average player in this league, but he is an upgrade to Auburn’s quarterback room so that’s why they were willing to spend the money on him. Average is better than the complete trash that they currently have, so they will do what it takes financially to get the best available prospect to them. It’s all relative to what else is available for you to get. It’s economics. Quarterbacks are in high demand and SEC caliber ones are almost nonexistent. If you find a competent one when your current roster doesn’t have one and your alumni has a shit ton of money, you end up with average players getting big time money offers.

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Why not go after Spencer Sanders or a ton of other QBs that fit Hugh's scheme?

they did offer Sanders but he was swept away by the sissy blue shirts up north.

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Originally Posted by Pancho

they did offer Sanders but he was swept away by the sissy blue shirts up north.

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I'll admit I can't remember seeing Sanders play. Is he not as good as folks say? Him going to OM, who already had an established starter, for his final year, seems like a dumb choice. I certainly don't blame Lane for getting him, it was a good move.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I hate it as much as anyone and I know some will roll their eyes at this but, we have had some programs really tampering and taking some swings at our guys again. More money than even sounds believable. Idk what the solution is but we have all allowed it. This is not what they said it was.

If you can join Bulldog Initiative do it. I will never talk down to anyone who doesnt bc I more than understand. Whether it?s necessary or you just dont want to give up your money I get it either way.

But dont let anyone fool you, we are having to fend off some big swings. 4 million was an offer here recently. Some of our leaders have turned it down bc it was the right thing and some have made us up the ante. I would never want to coach big time college football ever at this point.

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I hate what it has become, and it has tainted all of college sports, but it is fair to allow anyone to make money if they can. I 100% do not agree with not paying college athletes as it was basically a forced labor situation in football in particular. Baseball, you could go pro if you wanted out of high school, but if you enrolled you were a slave basically for 3 years. Basketball forcing people to go to college is dumb as well. Football, there is not minor league system in place therefore players were basically forced to play for free.

Any student on campus can earn any money they want as long as it is made in a legal manner. WE are 100% in a capitalist system now with college athletes and guess what, we do not have Elon Musk's checkbook. So.... we are going to lose out on anyone worth having eventually. aTm and Bama have $1,500 to each one of our single dollars. That is the way it is, and it is going to get worse each and every year.

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

I hate what it has become, and it has tainted all of college sports, but it is fair to allow anyone to make money if they can. I 100% do not agree with not paying college athletes as it was basically a forced labor situation in football in particular. Baseball, you could go pro if you wanted out of high school, but if you enrolled you were a slave basically for 3 years. Basketball forcing people to go to college is dumb as well. Football, there is not minor league system in place therefore players were basically forced to play for free.

Any student on campus can earn any money they want as long as it is made in a legal manner. WE are 100% in a capitalist system now with college athletes and guess what, we do not have Elon Musk's checkbook. So.... we are going to lose out on anyone worth having eventually. aTm and Bama have $1,500 to each one of our single dollars. That is the way it is, and it is going to get worse each and every year.

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I can agree with part of what you are saying and the debate about making money while in college as a student athlete but forced labor and slave? That's an inappropriate comparison to real forced labor and slavery. Not one player has ever been forced to play a sport, sign a scholarship and work toward a college degree. That has a huge value to the individual and for future generations if they take advantage. That's a net positive in a persons life.

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

I hate what it has become, and it has tainted all of college sports, but it is fair to allow anyone to make money if they can. I 100% do not agree with not paying college athletes as it was basically a forced labor situation in football in particular. Baseball, you could go pro if you wanted out of high school, but if you enrolled you were a slave basically for 3 years. Basketball forcing people to go to college is dumb as well. Football, there is not minor league system in place therefore players were basically forced to play for free.

Any student on campus can earn any money they want as long as it is made in a legal manner. WE are 100% in a capitalist system now with college athletes and guess what, we do not have Elon Musk's checkbook. So.... we are going to lose out on anyone worth having eventually. aTm and Bama have $1,500 to each one of our single dollars. That is the way it is, and it is going to get worse each and every year.

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Really, forced labor? Are we back to that argument again? Like they are not getting paid with FREE education, FREE ROOM and FREE BOARD and TONS of FREE Tutoring? They are paid in intangibles, something at their age I would have given a right nut for.

You are missing the whole point with college athletics in that they are or were amateurs, now they are not! That is what has ruined college sports! They approach the game differently as they are only worried about their future status in the draft and not about their college team and how to help them - it is a team sport and they don't play like it. They are starting to act like the spoiled brats of the NBA - that is why I quit watching them years ago! I am afraid college sports will be next!

The only solution is to create a semi-pro league separate from the university so student athletes can actually be students and the pro-minded go pro right out of high school. But wait - next the high schoolers will want to get paid as well - so where does this madness stop - pee wee level or travel ball? Why discriminate if you pay "college students" then why not pay any and all other kind or level of student as well?

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

Why not go after Spencer Sanders or a ton of other QBs that fit Hugh's scheme?

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Spencer Sanders had the most interceptions in the country last year and that was playing in the big 12. Is he really very good? Also, Michael Borkey went on Hadad’s show yesterday and said Sanders had grade issues and didn’t have very many options in the portal so that could be why Auburn didn’t offer him.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The common fan is doing what they can do, for the most part in my opinion. We need our big boosters to step up and play ball the way they are in basketball and baseball. We can get on here and make the little guy feel like they need to choose between paying the mortgage or keeping a DT, or the people who can donate a couple hundred thousand / millions without blinking an eye can do what other schools big boys are doing. I'm not directing this at you, particularly.

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See I disagree with that. The common fans aren't doing anything. We have 15k bulldog club members giving at least $100 a year.
But we only have 1500 bulldog initiative members.

We should have 15k bulldog initiative members giving at least $10 a month. That's 1.8 million yearly and would do absolute wonders.