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01-04-2023, 10:28 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Yep, the he reached out to us rumor was from a 247 mod, IIRC. So I wouldn't necessarily take it with a grain of salt. We could be very well working out details like who's coming with him from Ark and their salaries.

I really hope the reaching out to us is completely baseless. Just because I would hope that if a coordinator reached out to Arnett, he'd keep that shit under lock and key. I know coaching is a little different from most employment markets, and employers know their coaches are looking at other offers, but I would view a coach reaching out for a lateral position as something different from normal coaching search stuff and to be kept confidential.
01-04-2023, 10:28 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

2 million would put him up there with Monken as far as highest paid coordinator.

For us to make the lateral pull, I think he have to overpay. Who knows if he'll be worth it, but that's what it will cost us
01-04-2023, 10:29 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I really hope the reaching out to us is completely baseless. Just because I would hope that if a coordinator reached out to Arnett, he'd keep that shit under lock and key. I know coaching is a little different from most employment markets, and employers know their coaches are looking at other offers, but I would view a coach reaching out for a lateral position as something different from normal coaching search stuff and to be kept confidential.

"Reaching out to us" is most likely his agent reached out to us
01-04-2023, 10:29 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

2 million would put him up there with Monken as far as highest paid coordinator.

I'm just not seeing the rationale for paying him $2M. I'll be perfectly happy if we get him, but I did not view him as the type of coordinator to break the bank for. I guess if we really want a mobile QB and the thought is he will bring one with him, then that's maybe a little different.
01-04-2023, 10:31 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by msstate7

"Reaching out to us" is most likely his agent reached out to us

I get that but it still seems different to me. If Briles stays, that news is going to burn some of his good will in Arkansas. Much more so I think than a story that he was contacted and was willing to listen.
01-04-2023, 10:35 AM
CaptainObvious

I read these posts with an eye toward the Maroon Elephant in the Room.

WE AINT GOT NO DAMN TARGET!!!!
01-04-2023, 10:36 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'm thrilled with my job, until someone offers me an extra million to do a different one....then I'm even happier with my new job.

LOL Yep!
01-04-2023, 10:43 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

Sexton is his agent. So who knows. Some ARK people said he was happy there and he was the HC in waiting. Time will tell, I guess.

HC in waiting? Does Pittman have unknown health concerns too? That dude is gonna get fired from there at some point. Brikes has a better chance of becoming the next head coach if he moves to a different job and continues to succeed, while that dumpster fire keeps rolling.
01-04-2023, 10:44 AM
yjnkdawg

I just read on another team's board that there may be some ARK coaches leaving ARK just to get away from Pittman. Just like those players apparently did who hit the portal. so if KB want's to be the ARK HC he can wait here at MSU hopefully as our OC.
01-04-2023, 10:45 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

HC in waiting? Does Pittman have unknown health concerns too? That dude is gonna get fired from there at some point. Brikes has a better chance of becoming the next head coach if he moves to a different job and continues to succeed, while that dumpster fire keeps rolling.

Dumpster fire seems extreme. They're 16-10 the last 2 seasons, which is exactly the same as us
01-04-2023, 10:47 AM
mo7888

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

HC in waiting? Does Pittman have unknown health concerns too? That dude is gonna get fired from there at some point. Brikes has a better chance of becoming the next head coach if he moves to a different job and continues to succeed, while that dumpster fire keeps rolling.

Part of the discussion could be a promise to be Pittman's successor up here if he's let go? Maybe even a mid season firing/hiring..
01-04-2023, 10:48 AM
KOdawg1

Yeah, Kevin Johns would be a solid back up plan.

Experienced coordinator who's had success at multiple schools.

I don't think it would take much to get him either
01-04-2023, 10:49 AM
Saltydog

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I think Arkansas has told him to wait and hear out their counter offer. It also could be Briles is having a discussion with his family. A lot of Ark posters were saying his wife and kids are really happy there. And maybe there's a talk with some of the offensive coaches b/c he's going to be bringing some of them with him if he chooses to leave. And of course he could be taking stock of various offensive players that are talking to him on the down low about transferring to State to play for him.

And it could be all total bullshit just to get Arkansas to break $2m just to keep him.

The $2MM doesn't scare Wal-Mart........
01-04-2023, 10:50 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

HC in waiting? Does Pittman have unknown health concerns too? That dude is gonna get fired from there at some point. Brikes has a better chance of becoming the next head coach if he moves to a different job and continues to succeed, while that dumpster fire keeps rolling.

Yeah, I know . Just what some said on the ARK board.
01-04-2023, 10:53 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Yeah, Kevin Johns would be a solid back up plan.

Experienced coordinator who's had success at multiple schools.

I don't think it would take much to get him either

Yeah if KB doesn't work out, Johns could be the diamond in the rough of all the names that have been mentioned.
01-04-2023, 11:03 AM
Really Clark?

I like John's fine and think it would be a good hire. Been solid except his last year at Indiana when he was let go but that crap happens. Just know for all the ones wanting to stay closer to the Leach tree he is further away. Zone reads and RPO's and 11 personnel. His QB was the leading rusher last year.
01-04-2023, 11:09 AM
StarkVegasSteve

If it is not KB then we do have fall back options and I am certain that Johns is one of them. Down the list a bit, but he is on it.
01-04-2023, 11:10 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I like John's fine and think it would be a good hire. Been solid except his last year at Indiana when he was let go but that crap happens. Just know for all the ones wanting to stay closer to the Leach tree he is further away. Zone reads and RPO's and 11 personnel. His QB was the leading rusher last year.

Johns will bring back the Moorhead offense. So our recruiting strategy would need to completely change.
01-04-2023, 11:15 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Johns will bring back the Moorhead offense. So our recruiting strategy would need to completely change.

I mean it's in there for sure but some differences. At the very least he runs his offense a good bit faster pace. Lol. I curse more on the check with me wait inside 5 sec snaps...delay of games and false starts. My blood increasing again thinking about it.
01-04-2023, 11:17 AM
DLGDawg

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I get that but it still seems different to me. If Briles stays, that news is going to burn some of his good will in Arkansas. Much more so I think than a story that he was contacted and was willing to listen.

I've read a lot and cannot provide the link, but the way I remember reading it was that we contacted him to check interest and KB said he was interested.

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