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12-15-2022, 07:27 PM
BuckyIsAB****

And forgot to add, we are fighting hard to keep Dillion Johnson. Its not over yet
12-15-2022, 07:28 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Not popular but I think Spurrier Jr should get the shot. He's got pedigree and he's going to get the chance somewhere.

Hes gonna get a shot. A big time bowl win and it would be hard to pick someone else. Leach trusted him
12-15-2022, 07:34 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

And forgot to add, we are fighting hard to keep Dillion Johnson. Its not over yet

Wow. Interesting. Not sure how I feel about that.
12-15-2022, 07:35 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I think most of us pretty much figured the scheme would get adjusted a bit. And that's fine. We need an experienced play caller in my opinion. I think Seth Littrell as OC would be a major boost if we can get him.

I'd never heard of Littrell, so I googled him. He was fired at North Texas a week or so ago after several seasons. Had a 44-44 record. You think you'd want him running our offense?
12-15-2022, 07:37 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Put 15-20 pounds on Justin Robinson

If he doesn't know how to gain weight, he could hang with me for a while. I know all the tricks.

Time for a glass of eggnog ....
12-15-2022, 07:42 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Wow. Interesting. Not sure how I feel about that.

Redemption stories are cool with me.
12-15-2022, 07:44 PM
State82

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

If he doesn't know how to gain weight, he could hang with me for a while. I know all the tricks.

Time for a glass of eggnog ....

Word.
12-15-2022, 07:47 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

I'd never heard of Littrell, so I googled him. He was fired at North Texas a week or so ago after several seasons. Had a 44-44 record. You think you'd want him running our offense?

Well considering almost every offense he’s coached is either a top 10 or 20 offense besides a few outlier years, I’d say he’s damn good OC. Might want to do more than just look at a record when discussing a guy we like for OC. He was .500 at North Texas for goodness sakes. He wasn’t at a blue blood and .500
12-15-2022, 07:47 PM
Tater

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Wow. Interesting. Not sure how I feel about that.

At the end of the day, I think what has transpired with Dillon is going to turn him into a much better man and into a harder worker.

This tragedy will be emotional for him and such a life lesson. Him being willing to come back to State and admit his mistake would be a huge growth step forward. I'd almost look at it as we lost a prima donna RB to the portal and gained a hard-working, sec-experienced, mentally strong HB from the portal. We'd upgrade for sure. That would be the type of player we want to add to the team.

I feel like him coming back would be him responding correctly to Leach. Leach's comments came from a place of disappointment. He saw greatness in Dillon. Dillon did something mentally weak and did double down on it. To come back, would not be to spite Leach. It would to be accepting that a great man needed to coach him to be better and acting on that. I, for one, would love to see that happen. How awesome would it be to be the last player to gather great inspiration directly from Mike Leach.
12-15-2022, 07:47 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

I'd never heard of Littrell, so I googled him. He was fired at North Texas a week or so ago after several seasons. Had a 44-44 record. You think you'd want him running our offense?

Run his offensive numbers as an OC at Arizona, Indiana, and North Carolina before he arrived and what he did in his time. Also, look at what North Texas was before and after his arrival. We are not looking at his HC record, which is also above the norm for North Texas as well.
12-15-2022, 07:49 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Tater

At the end of the day, I think what has transpired with Dillon is going to turn him into a much better man and into a harder worker.

This tragedy will be emotional for him and such a life lesson. Him being willing to come back to State and admit his mistake would be a huge growth step forward. I'd almost look at it as we lost a prima donna RB to the portal and gained a hard-working, sec-experienced, mentally strong HB from the portal. We'd upgrade for sure. That would be the type of player we want to add to the team.

I feel like him coming back would be him responding correctly to Leach. Leach's comments came from a place of disappointment. He saw greatness in Dillon. Dillon did something mentally weak and did double down on it. To come back, would not be to spite Leach. It would to be accepting that a great man needed to coach him to be better and acting on that. I, for one, would love to see that happen. How awesome would it be to be the last player to gather great inspiration directly from Mike Leach.

Well said, Tater.
12-15-2022, 07:50 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

I'd never heard of Littrell, so I googled him. He was fired at North Texas a week or so ago after several seasons. Had a 44-44 record. You think you'd want him running our offense?

He had a top 20 offense, chief. He also had top 20 offenses at Indiana and North Carolina. Also much needed head coaching experience. Work on your Google-Fu, Grasshopper.
12-15-2022, 07:52 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Run his offensive numbers as an OC at Arizona, Indiana, and North Carolina before he arrived and what he did in his time. Also, look at what North Texas was before and after his arrival. We are not looking at his HC record, which is also above the norm for North Texas as well.

His offensive numbers through the years:

North Texas (Total Offense Ranking | PPG Ranking):

2022: 20th | 29th

2021: 40th | 76th

2020: 8th | 23rd

2019: 54th | 52nd

2018: 20th | 26th

2017: 24th | 19th

2016: 117th | 100th (first season)

UNC:

2015: 18th | 9th

2014: 48th | 39th

Indiana:

2013: 9th | 16th

2012: 34th | 53rd

Arizona:

2011: 16th | 38th

That’s pretty freaking good. But yeah sucks.
12-15-2022, 07:54 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

His offensive numbers through the years:

North Texas (Total Offense Ranking | PPG Ranking):

2022: 20th | 29th

2021: 40th | 76th

2020: 8th | 23rd

2019: 54th | 52nd

2018: 20th | 26th

2017: 24th | 19th

2016: 117th | 100th (first season)

UNC:

2015: 18th | 9th

2014: 48th | 39th

Indiana:

2013: 9th | 16th

2012: 34th | 53rd

Arizona:

2011: 16th | 38th

That’s pretty freaking good. But yeah sucks.

Yep. And when you look at what those schools were the year before he arrived, it looks even better.
12-15-2022, 07:55 PM
was21

BRING CUMBEST BACK!!!!!
12-15-2022, 07:57 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Tater

At the end of the day, I think what has transpired with Dillon is going to turn him into a much better man and into a harder worker.

This tragedy will be emotional for him and such a life lesson. Him being willing to come back to State and admit his mistake would be a huge growth step forward. I'd almost look at it as we lost a prima donna RB to the portal and gained a hard-working, sec-experienced, mentally strong HB from the portal. We'd upgrade for sure. That would be the type of player we want to add to the team.

Well said Tater! I feel like him coming back would be him responding correctly to Leach. Leach's comments came from a place of disappointment. He saw greatness in Dillon. Dillon did something mentally weak and did double down on it. To come back, would not be to spite Leach. It would to be accepting that a great man needed to coach him to be better and acting on that. I, for one, would love to see that happen. How awesome would it be to be the last player to gather great inspiration directly from Mike Leach.

I agree. We all make mistakes and I wholeheartedly believe in second chances, provided he's humble and willing to make amends with the team and staff I wouldn't have any problems accepting him back. I would tell him he needs to stay off social media though.

When someone shows contrition and apologizes and shows their willing to do better then it should all be forgiven and forgotten.
12-15-2022, 08:02 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Yep. And when you look at what those schools were the year before he arrived, it looks even better.

81-155 is the record of North Texas leading up to Littrell’s hire since re-entering D1 after moving to FCS for a several years.

But yeah 44-44 is so bad there.
12-15-2022, 08:08 PM
State82

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I agree. We all make mistakes and I wholeheartedly believe in second chances, provided he's humble and willing to make amends with the team and staff I wouldn't have any problems accepting him back. I would tell him he needs to stay off social media though.

When someone shows contrition and apologizes and shows their willing to do better then it should all be forgiven and forgotten.

100%
12-15-2022, 08:17 PM
Activated Alpha

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Originally Posted by Tater

At the end of the day, I think what has transpired with Dillon is going to turn him into a much better man and into a harder worker.

This tragedy will be emotional for him and such a life lesson. Him being willing to come back to State and admit his mistake would be a huge growth step forward. I'd almost look at it as we lost a prima donna RB to the portal and gained a hard-working, sec-experienced, mentally strong HB from the portal. We'd upgrade for sure. That would be the type of player we want to add to the team.

I feel like him coming back would be him responding correctly to Leach. Leach's comments came from a place of disappointment. He saw greatness in Dillon. Dillon did something mentally weak and did double down on it. To come back, would not be to spite Leach. It would to be accepting that a great man needed to coach him to be better and acting on that. I, for one, would love to see that happen. How awesome would it be to be the last player to gather great inspiration directly from Mike Leach.

This right here!! If he came back and used Leach's teachings as inspiration holy crap what a man he would become. Leach is going to be sorely missed not because of the coach that he is, but because of the type man that he is...
12-15-2022, 08:17 PM
Coach34

Good stuff Bucky...and even the buffoon Tater made a solid post

Having a TE type player would do nothing but help Rogers
Having a legit running game would do nothing but help Rogers

I'm also hearing that the bowl game is likely Spurrier's last game at State in addition to moving forward we may go back to 1 WR coach.

Keep the Culture of the program in place
Keep the defensive philosophy that has been working in place
Hire the right OC

The OC hire will make or break Arnette

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