Some of you fans are so ignorant its comical here is our football record for last 22y

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11-14-2022, 12:30 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

This is a great example of how I'm a Leach Centrist, but I just seem to be super-pro because so many people here will do anything they can to revise history and belittle Leach. We were widely expected to lose to that ranked Tulsa team, and it was a good win for us. But any time Leach has a good game, even day 1 when he beat the defending national champions on the road, people will be looking to downplay it.

Beat a big name team who's a little down? Doesn't count! But if you beat a team without a big name who was better than usual that year, it also doesn't count because only big name wins are good!

Accurate post but this goes back as long as I remember. When State beats a good team it's only because they were down not because we were just better. Heck i remember people saying after we beat bama in 1980 it was only because they were having a "down " year. We just can't seem to enjoy wins, no matter who its against ( personally I enjoy every win because I know how hard it is to win and the work it takes).
11-14-2022, 12:32 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

ED has become like watching congress, extremists on both sides with the truth somewhere in the middle.

Lol. Awesome!!!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Commercecomet24 again
11-14-2022, 12:35 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

This is a great example of how I'm a Leach Centrist, but I just seem to be super-pro because so many people here will do anything they can to revise history and belittle Leach. We were widely expected to lose to that ranked Tulsa team, and it was a good win for us. But any time Leach has a good game, even day 1 when he beat the defending national champions on the road, people will be looking to downplay it.

Beat a big name team who's a little down? Doesn't count! But if you beat a team without a big name who was better than usual that year, it also doesn't count because only big name wins are good!

Both those teams were terrible. That game was awful

ETA...
State total offense - 271 yds
Penalties - 11 for 102 yds

And we won. That should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of our opponent
11-14-2022, 12:37 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

This is a great example of how I'm a Leach Centrist, but I just seem to be super-pro because so many people here will do anything they can to revise history and belittle Leach. We were widely expected to lose to that ranked Tulsa team, and it was a good win for us. But any time Leach has a good game, even day 1 when he beat the defending national champions on the road, people will be looking to downplay it.

Beat a big name team who's a little down? Doesn't count! But if you beat a team without a big name who was better than usual that year, it also doesn't count because only big name wins are good!

Great post!! I hate that crap too. When we beat LSU, Florida, etc.... I hate hearing State fans downplay it. Hell I have family that commented how Florida must suck when we beat them. That drives me crazy. Ole Miss hangs banners for that same accomplishment and sings it to the rooftops! When we win games like that, even Arkansas and aTm this year I enjoy the hail out of it.
The Kentucky loss is the game that's killing me on leach. That and how bad our offense sucks against good defenses.
11-14-2022, 12:41 PM
BiscuitEater

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

The money we are spending now is not comparable to 22 years ago, the results shouldn't be either.

Look at what the 'other 13' teams in the SEC are spending NOW! Compare that too.
11-14-2022, 12:44 PM
SailingDawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Damn, just damn. Only a State fan wants to settle for the past. And people wonder why we've got a problem.

It?s not just the past, it?s where we are in relation to other SEC schools each year. Student population, athletic budget, and alumni support are the three factors that, compared to top tier SEC schools, will always keep us where we are in football: mid to low tier.
11-14-2022, 12:48 PM
mparkerfd20

Here's Ole Miss for comparison. They have had 8 in that same time period and only 9 losing seasons where we've had 11. So stop calling them little brother. WE are the definition of little brother in every sense of the word.

Overall Conference SRS Polls
Rk Year Conf W L T Pct W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Coach(es) Bowl Notes
1 2022 SEC 8 2 0 .800 4 2 0 .667 11.20 1.70 21 7 Lane Kiffin (8-2)
2 2021 SEC 10 3 0 .769 6 2 0 .750 11.43 4.05 8 11 Lane Kiffin (10-3) Sugar Bowl-L
3 2020 SEC 5 5 0 .500 4 5 0 .444 8.07 7.57 Lane Kiffin (5-5) Outback Bowl-W
4 2019 SEC 4 8 0 .333 2 6 0 .250 2.24 3.82 Matt Luke (4-8)
5 2018 SEC 5 7 0 .417 1 7 0 .125 2.81 4.39 Matt Luke (5-7)
6 2017 SEC 6 6 0 .500 3 5 0 .375 2.78 1.44 Matt Luke (6-6)
7 2016 SEC 5 7 0 .417 2 6 0 .250 4.74 5.83 11 11 Hugh Freeze (5-7) record adjusted to 0-7-0 by NCAA
8 2015 SEC 10 3 0 .769 6 2 0 .750 14.42 4.42 17 3 10 Hugh Freeze (10-3) Sugar Bowl-W
9 2014 SEC 9 4 0 .692 5 3 0 .625 16.80 8.11 18 3 17 Hugh Freeze (9-4) Peach Bowl-L record adjusted to 1-4-0 by NCAA
10 2013 SEC 8 5 0 .615 3 5 0 .375 10.42 5.89 21 Hugh Freeze (8-5) Music City Bowl-W record adjusted to 1-5-0 by NCAA
11 2012 SEC 7 6 0 .538 3 5 0 .375 8.43 5.20 Hugh Freeze (7-6) BBVA Compass Bowl-W record adjusted to 0-6-0 by NCAA
12 2011 SEC 2 10 0 .167 0 8 0 .000 -6.71 5.79 Houston Nutt (2-10) record adjusted to 0-10-0 by NCAA
13 2010 SEC 4 8 0 .333 1 7 0 .125 -1.83 2.09 Houston Nutt (4-8) record adjusted to 0-8-0 by NCAA
14 2009 SEC 9 4 0 .692 4 4 0 .500 11.50 2.50 8 4 20 Houston Nutt (9-4) Cotton Bowl-W
15 2008 SEC 9 4 0 .692 5 3 0 .625 12.11 3.18 14 14 Houston Nutt (9-4) Cotton Bowl-W
16 2007 SEC 3 9 0 .250 0 8 0 .000 -1.31 6.11 Ed Orgeron (3-9)
17 2006 SEC 4 8 0 .333 2 6 0 .250 -1.74 4.59 Ed Orgeron (4-8)
18 2005 SEC 3 8 0 .273 1 7 0 .125 -7.48 0.52 Ed Orgeron (3-8)
19 2004 SEC 4 7 0 .364 3 5 0 .375 -2.17 2.93 David Cutcliffe (4-7)
20 2003 SEC 10 3 0 .769 7 1 0 .875 10.99 2.53 13 13 David Cutcliffe (10-3) Cotton Bowl-W
Rk Year Conf W L T Pct W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Coach(es) Bowl Notes
21 2002 SEC 7 6 0 .538 3 5 0 .375 4.44 3.13 21 David Cutcliffe (7-6) Independence Bowl-W
22 2001 SEC 7 4 0 .636 4 4 0 .500 5.64 -0.18 David Cutcliffe (7-4)
11-14-2022, 12:51 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by SailingDawg

It?s not just the past, it?s where we are in relation to other SEC schools each year. Student population, athletic budget, and alumni support are the three factors that, compared to top tier SEC schools, will always keep us where we are in football: mid to low tier.

We have to get passed this mindset. How much do we get from the SEC now? We had the money to build the nations nicest baseball stadium. We have plenty of money. It has to be managed correctly. We suck at advertising. We suck at NIL. We can do better at transfer portal. We can hire coaches that actually "fit" Mississippi State.
We have plenty of money and resources to do so much better than we do now. It's called leadership.
11-14-2022, 12:58 PM
99jc

look i am all for winning i thought we would win 9-10 games this year but realistically that's a long shot every year. i do think we are a running qb and a great WR from being really good
11-14-2022, 12:59 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Coach34

9th in the SEC in Total Offense conference only with Mississippi left and in potential bad weather.

Is our defense top 9?
11-14-2022, 01:06 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Sigh......

How about some of us want to be better? I wouldn't be as successful in life if I just looked at the leadership before me and said "Hey, I can perform that well".

It's an easy concept. We don't have as good of players as the better schools. Doesn't matter the coach as long as he's competent. When we have a nfl qb we went 10-2 and 8-4. Other than that Dan was below a 7-5 coach. Now leach is a 7-5 coach.

I wonder how many people complaining on here are giving at least 50-100 bucks a month to NIL to get those players. If you're not, you have no right to complain, because if 5,000 of us did that we'd have 3 million a year and more talent.
11-14-2022, 01:08 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Both those teams were terrible. That game was awful

ETA...
State total offense - 271 yds
Penalties - 11 for 102 yds

And we won. That should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of our opponent

It was 30 degrees with 15 mph winds and sleeting. It was a defensive game and we won.
11-14-2022, 01:10 PM
KOdawg1

I didn't read all that.
11-14-2022, 01:11 PM
Percho

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Originally Posted by 99jc

look i am all for winning i thought we would win 9-10 games this year but realistically that's a long shot every year. i do think we are a running qb and a great WR from being really good

Where I am different from most on here, I believe one of the Texas boys will beat oiut Will as starter next year and I also did not expect that to happen this year as a freshman/redshirt freshman.

If anyone does not believe Leach wants to win here, I do not know what to tell you. Coach is building a team and that takes time, more so at MSU. We are getting better skill players IMHO than in the past.
11-14-2022, 01:18 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by confucius say

It was 30 degrees with 15 mph winds and sleeting. It was a defensive game and we won.

They had 484 total yards in the cold
11-14-2022, 01:20 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by confucius say

It's an easy concept. We don't have as good of players as the better schools. Doesn't matter the coach as long as he's competent. When we have a nfl qb we went 10-2 and 8-4. Other than that Dan was below a 7-5 coach. Now leach is a 7-5 coach.

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Chris Ralph and Tyler "wounded Giraffe" Russell went 8-4 under Mullen
11-14-2022, 01:33 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

The money we are spending now is not comparable to 22 years ago, the results shouldn't be either.

While this is correct, problem is our competition is spending more money too. Everyone in the league spends a ton of money. WE have the second lowest budget.
11-14-2022, 01:40 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

We have to get passed this mindset. How much do we get from the SEC now? We had the money to build the nations nicest baseball stadium. We have plenty of money. It has to be managed correctly. We suck at advertising. We suck at NIL. We can do better at transfer portal. We can hire coaches that actually "fit" Mississippi State.
We have plenty of money and resources to do so much better than we do now. It's called leadership.

And so does every other team in the league. That's the point. EVerybody wants to win at every place.
11-14-2022, 01:49 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by msstate7

They had 484 total yards in the cold

Yep. And 26 points. Two less than us.
11-14-2022, 01:53 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Yep. And 26 points. Two less than us.

One of our all time greatest wins for sure. That Tulsa team minus their best player was a monster

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