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03-20-2022, 02:14 PM
calidawg

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Gene Chizik won a National Championship too. Lemonis winning the first ever National Championship in a sport 90% of the NCAA dont even try at with someone else?s recruits doesn?t guarantee future(or current) success.

1/2 a season removed from a national title in baseball and now our head coach is Gene Chizik and a lucky Croom... get the F out of here.
03-20-2022, 02:16 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by calidawg

1/2 a season removed from a national title in baseball and now our head coach is Gene Chizik and a lucky Croom... get the F out of here.

Yeah one of these things is not like the others.
03-20-2022, 02:32 PM
mparkerfd20

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Gene Chizik won a National Championship too. Lemonis winning the first ever National Championship in a sport 90% of the NCAA dont even try at with someone else?s recruits doesn?t guarantee future(or current) success.

Nailed it. I will give him a pass for a season or so though seeing as he DID just win our school's first ever Natty.
03-20-2022, 02:33 PM
basedog

Player have to be held responsible just as much or more than Coaches.
03-20-2022, 02:46 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by basedog

Player have to be held responsible just as much or more than Coaches.

Good job by Cade battling adversity today! I just don't see us getting swept this year as long as he is healthy.
03-20-2022, 02:53 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

12 walks and pitching wasn't an issue? Yeah the zone was tight but pitching and defense was a major problem yesterday.

I was sitting behind home yesterday. The ump was tight and terribly inconsistent. Yes we had 12 walks - UGA had 9 - to go with 18 combined K's. When was the last time you saw 21 walks in a game?? Let alone a game with that many K's, hits, and runs? Our pitching needs work, but that ump was trash.
03-20-2022, 03:03 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

I was sitting behind home yesterday. The ump was tight and terribly inconsistent. Yes we had 12 walks - UGA had 9 - to go with 18 combined K's. When was the last time you saw 21 walks in a game?? Let alone a game with that many K's, hits, and runs? Our pitching needs work, but that ump was trash.

That's exactly how Ron and Jim explained as well
03-20-2022, 03:10 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

I was sitting behind home yesterday. The ump was tight and terribly inconsistent. Yes we had 12 walks - UGA had 9 - to go with 18 combined K's. When was the last time you saw 21 walks in a game?? Let alone a game with that many K's, hits, and runs? Our pitching needs work, but that ump was trash.

Yeah ump was terrible. Even with all the walks if we play defense we win by 6-7 runs.
03-20-2022, 03:14 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yeah ump was terrible. Even with all the walks if we play defense we win by 6-7 runs.

Don't disagree. But I also think that the ump had an outsized impact - batters and pitchers were both guessing from inning to inning.
03-20-2022, 03:23 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Don't disagree. But I also think that the ump had an outsized impact - batters and pitchers were both guessing from inning to inning.

Agreed no question he had a huge impact. I actually thought stinnett stuff was as good as his past couple starts but the James error and ump really squeezing him especially on his breaking ball got him.
03-20-2022, 03:50 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Good job by Cade battling adversity today! I just don't see us getting swept this year as long as he is healthy.

Thanks Cowbell. He gives us a chance on Sunday.
03-20-2022, 05:19 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Agreed no question he had a huge impact. I actually thought stinnett stuff was as good as his past couple starts but the James error and ump really squeezing him especially on his breaking ball got him.

There were multiple times all day where for either team everyone around me were saying "how is that not a strike?" I could actually hear the UGA play by play guy from above in the press box questioning ball calls for both teams.

As Jim said in pre-game - we know Stinnett can pitch like a national pitcher if the week, he's already done it!
03-20-2022, 05:20 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

There were multiple times all day where for either team everyone around me were saying "how is that not a strike?" I could actually hear the UGA play by play guy from above in the press box questioning ball calls for both teams.

As Jim said in pre-game - we know Stinnett can pitch like a national pitcher if the week, he's already done it!

Yeah he was definitely equal opportunity bad for both teams. Ump Must've partied to hard Friday night
03-20-2022, 10:55 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by ArrowDawg

I certainly hope talent isn't the issue, especially since Lemo is supposed to be a great recruiter. He didn't come here just to get to Omaha with players recruited by previous staffs. Now we're starting to become truly more of a Lemonis team, so the pressure naturally goes up. Hosting regionals is an expected minimum, and that appears to probably be out of the question this year.

We have talent. We have two almost surefire first round draft picks in Sims and Logan Tanner. Hunter Hines has a chance to be one in a couple of years. Cade Smith is very good. Stinnett was ranked a top 200 prospect by MLB.com as was Andrew Walling. Hancock, James, and Cumbest have a chance to hit over 10 home runs apiece and Hancock and James have done so in the past. Jess Davis won a gold glove for his play in CF. Kellum Clark is another player that will be an easy top five round draft pick depending on how he progresses but in his current for he is another 10 home run guy. Preston Johnson is one of the top pitchers in the SEC as far as strikeouts go and I think he is another potential MLB player. Jackson Fristoe made Team USA as a freshman.

It's not talent that's the issue. Our two "worst" using the term very loosely players are Leggett and Forsythe and one of those guys has one of the most clutch hits in MSU history and the other is pretty close to MLB caliber defensively. The issue is we aren't dominant like we would like to be. We're similar to Alabama football fans in that way. Which is good and bad- more good than bad IMO. Our fans want to play in preseason tournaments and win them, play big name opponents OOC and beat them, win the Governor's Cup, win the SEC, SEC Tournament, host as a National Seed and win the National Championship. And honestly- I think it's reasonable for MSU fans to have those expectations. We've done all of those things in the past. But very rarely do we ever have a team where we don't have a lot of things to figure out and have hiccups along the way. That leads to disappointing weekends here and there and throw in "that's baseball" which can happen to anyone any weekend. See MSU/Mizzou last year.

This team is good. Probably not National Seed good. Good enough to make a Super Regional? I think so. And not good enough to just run through the competition like hot butter.

We won't really reap the recruiting rewards from winning a National Championship for another couple of years. Just like 2013 helped us to build the 2015 class which included guys like Mangum, Stovall, Small, and etc. Two of those players- Mangum and Small flipped to MSU. Mangum had family athletic ties to every school in our region except for MSU and was committed to Alabama where his Dad played and his uncle played football at Ole Miss. Small we had to fight Vandy to get. But that happened because of the success we had on the field. The same thing will happen again a couple of years from now.

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Originally Posted by BayouDawg

I just dont understand why Kam James never gets benched. He is a total liability. His family must give big money to the school or something.

Other than being a MSU legacy I don't know. I think he is worth starting. But I do wonder why we haven't dropped him in the order. May happen with Yeager playing much better now.

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Gene Chizik won a National Championship too. Lemonis winning the first ever National Championship in a sport 90% of the NCAA dont even try at with someone else?s recruits doesn?t guarantee future(or current) success.

Chizik literally never had a winning record before he came to Auburn with Cam. Lemonis has had winning seasons every year of his tenure including at Indiana which is not an easy place to win much less sustain success at and made regionals three out of his four seasons there- which is roughly the equivalent of us making a SR when you compare resources between the two programs.
03-21-2022, 12:36 PM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Croom always thought his teams were always close as well. MSU baseball is at the bottom of the SEC in almost every statistical category.

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03-21-2022, 04:16 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We have talent. We have two almost surefire first round draft picks in Sims and Logan Tanner. Hunter Hines has a chance to be one in a couple of years. Cade Smith is very good. Stinnett was ranked a top 200 prospect by MLB.com as was Andrew Walling. Hancock, James, and Cumbest have a chance to hit over 10 home runs apiece and Hancock and James have done so in the past. Jess Davis won a gold glove for his play in CF. Kellum Clark is another player that will be an easy top five round draft pick depending on how he progresses but in his current for he is another 10 home run guy. Preston Johnson is one of the top pitchers in the SEC as far as strikeouts go and I think he is another potential MLB player. Jackson Fristoe made Team USA as a freshman.

It's not talent that's the issue. Our two "worst" using the term very loosely players are Leggett and Forsythe and one of those guys has one of the most clutch hits in MSU history and the other is pretty close to MLB caliber defensively. The issue is we aren't dominant like we would like to be. We're similar to Alabama football fans in that way. Which is good and bad- more good than bad IMO. Our fans want to play in preseason tournaments and win them, play big name opponents OOC and beat them, win the Governor's Cup, win the SEC, SEC Tournament, host as a National Seed and win the National Championship. And honestly- I think it's reasonable for MSU fans to have those expectations. We've done all of those things in the past. But very rarely do we ever have a team where we don't have a lot of things to figure out and have hiccups along the way. That leads to disappointing weekends here and there and throw in "that's baseball" which can happen to anyone any weekend. See MSU/Mizzou last year.

This team is good. Probably not National Seed good. Good enough to make a Super Regional? I think so. And not good enough to just run through the competition like hot butter.

We won't really reap the recruiting rewards from winning a National Championship for another couple of years. Just like 2013 helped us to build the 2015 class which included guys like Mangum, Stovall, Small, and etc. Two of those players- Mangum and Small flipped to MSU. Mangum had family athletic ties to every school in our region except for MSU and was committed to Alabama where his Dad played and his uncle played football at Ole Miss. Small we had to fight Vandy to get. But that happened because of the success we had on the field. The same thing will happen again a couple of years from now.

Other than being a MSU legacy I don't know. I think he is worth starting. But I do wonder why we haven't dropped him in the order. May happen with Yeager playing much better now.

Chizik literally never had a winning record before he came to Auburn with Cam. Lemonis has had winning seasons every year of his tenure including at Indiana which is not an easy place to win much less sustain success at and made regionals three out of his four seasons there- which is roughly the equivalent of us making a SR when you compare resources between the two programs.

He does have the highest avg on the team at present, so there's that......too add, he's a solid pro prospect.
03-21-2022, 05:00 PM
BayouDawg

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

He does have the highest avg on the team at present, so there's that......too add, he's a solid pro prospect.

This is true. I give him a lot of crap but he is doing good at the plate. I guess he just seems to make his errors at the absolute worst times.
03-21-2022, 05:37 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

He does have the highest avg on the team at present, so there's that......too add, he's a solid pro prospect.

Also has an obp of .448. That's pretty sporty for a table setter.
03-21-2022, 05:53 PM
was21

Jim should come before Ron
03-21-2022, 06:58 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Also has an obp of .448. That's pretty sporty for a table setter.

The thing is he also only has two extra base hits all year. He needs to increase that a little bit.

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