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02-20-2022, 06:42 PM
Homedawg

Cade was great. Proud of him. But everyone is chunking in the towel on hunt way too early. He might not be our second starter. But he's gonna help our staff. And it might be in the pen. Either way he's gonna get another start and we will go from there.
02-20-2022, 06:50 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Cade was great. Proud of him. But everyone is chunking in the towel on hunt way too early. He might not be our second starter. But he's gonna help our staff. And it might be in the pen. Either way he's gonna get another start and we will go from there.

I agree. The talent is there he just lost focus on a couple hitters yesterday but I honestly thought he threw ok(not great) for his first start for the defending national champs. I think he's gonna be ok with more mound time.
02-20-2022, 06:59 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Congrats, sir! Really happy you get to enjoy this.

Nothing I did but many thanks! Like I told my daughter, there will always be that day when things don't go your way so enjoy the good days! LOL
02-20-2022, 07:07 PM
William Tecumsah Sherman

As is life! Congrats
02-20-2022, 07:12 PM
Ranchdawg

Basedog I know you are enjoying this ride. As a proud grandparent should. Congrats! I ran into Cam James grandfather yesterday and ended knowing him very well. Cam?s grandfather and my dad were very good friends.
02-20-2022, 07:42 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Cade was great. Proud of him. But everyone is chunking in the towel on hunt way too early. He might not be our second starter. But he's gonna help our staff. And it might be in the pen. Either way he's gonna get another start and we will go from there.

Not sure about everyone else, but I'm definitely not throwing in the towel on Hunt...I just think we found our #1 and #2 this weekend. Hunt could easily still be a weekend rotation guy, and I hope he is...he just didn't solidify that like the other two did this weekend.
02-20-2022, 07:44 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Not sure about everyone else, but I'm definitely not throwing in the towel on Hunt...I just think we found our #1 and #2 this weekend. Hunt could easily still be a weekend rotation guy, and I hope he is...he just didn't solidify that like the other two did this weekend.

Yes absolutely.
02-20-2022, 07:49 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Cade was great. Proud of him. But everyone is chunking in the towel on hunt way too early. He might not be our second starter. But he's gonna help our staff. And it might be in the pen. Either way he's gonna get another start and we will go from there.

KC will either be a starter or a key bullpen piece. He's not going to get pushed to the back.
02-20-2022, 07:50 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by basedog

You must have heard what I said yesterday, LOL!

Yes sir, I always read your posts, lol.
02-20-2022, 07:52 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by basedog

I don't mean to brag, but I'm not surprised at what Cade did today. I said many times, he is a strike thrower who will compete and ain't scared to challenge batters. It's only one game and moving forward after this win was huge.

I also think or "heard" he has been our #2 guy all along, I am guessing but I think Hunt started Saturday because under pressure Cade would be the better pitcher for Sunday, just a hunch.

Also, way too much talk about who has had good fall and preseason practice, it's always about performing on game day. As an ex-coach and athlete, I have seen many good practice players but when the lights get turned on, they aren't quite the same.

Btw, I don't think it matters as much being the Saturday pitcher being say the #2 guy, the Sunday guy IF he is the #2 guy should give you a better chance to work latter in the innings and you could come back with Friday relivers with Sims being #1. Just me.

I think most of our relivers will come around, it's just a matter who steps up again. Pitching will win a lot of games for us with good defense.

Great post and I agree. I love the way Cade attacks hitters, too!
02-20-2022, 08:04 PM
AlSwearengen

Hunt has the talent, that is evident. I seem to remember that the story on him was that he didn’t play as much baseball as most kids at this level and he was kinda raw coming in.

I think he just needs to go thru some wars and learn what it takes to succeed.

It looked like to me like he just lost concentration. In h.s., these types of kids (those that have a lot more talent than everyone else) can relax and walk a couple, then bare down and strike out a couple and get out of a jam. At this level, they can’t relax for one pitch. Hopefully, experience helps him with that.
02-20-2022, 08:30 PM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Wasn?t cades dad or grandad a big poster here last year? Looking to hear from him. Cade has been incredible today

Cade has "It"

Special player
02-20-2022, 09:40 PM
Coach34

Nobody is giving up on Hunt. He has a chance to do some big things for us this season.

But- with the arm talent on this team- you don’t get many chances to screw around. Hunt needs to have a good outing next weekend or we should look at someone else. Preston Johnson while valuable in relief could be a solid #3. Then you can’t forget Fristoe, Kohn, or Walling. Too many arms needing innings. Hunt has to perform on GameDay. Scrimmages and Intersquad be damned
02-20-2022, 10:10 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Cade has "It"

Special player

Pretty humble guy, has his head screwed on correctly. Loves MSU!
02-20-2022, 10:14 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Nobody is giving up on Hunt. He has a chance to do some big things for us this season.

But- with the arm talent on this team- you don’t get many chances to screw around. Hunt needs to have a good outing next weekend or we should look at someone else. Preston Johnson while valuable in relief could be a solid #3. Then you can’t forget Fristoe, Kohn, or Walling. Too many arms needing innings. Hunt has to perform on GameDay. Scrimmages and Intersquad be damned

I really like Preston Johnson, he would do well as a starter, but he is a valuable reliever. Hunt will play a huge role. Next couple weeks we tell a lot of roles from several players.
02-20-2022, 11:42 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Cade was great. Proud of him. But everyone is chunking in the towel on hunt way too early. He might not be our second starter. But he's gonna help our staff. And it might be in the pen. Either way he's gonna get another start and we will go from there.

Oh for sure. It was 1 start and the whole damn team was sloppy that game.
02-20-2022, 11:46 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

KC will either be a starter or a key bullpen piece. He's not going to get pushed to the back.

Definitely.

To think about our pitching depth in the past compared to now is just insane. And we've got guys who barely log innings that still throw gas. Crazy.
02-20-2022, 11:51 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Definitely.

To think about our pitching depth in the past compared to now is just insane. And we've got guys who barely log innings that still throw gas. Crazy.

It's wild isn't it? So many good arms, great position to be in and you can never have enough arms! College coach told me one time about having enough arms "No coach ever says we lost that series because we didn't have enough left fielders!" Lol
02-21-2022, 02:05 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Cade was great. Proud of him. But everyone is chunking in the towel on hunt way too early. He might not be our second starter. But he's gonna help our staff. And it might be in the pen. Either way he's gonna get another start and we will go from there.

Completely agree. We just need to figure out what Hunt's role is. I still think it's in the bullpen. Lots of good options there too though.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Definitely.

To think about our pitching depth in the past compared to now is just insane. And we've got guys who barely log innings that still throw gas. Crazy.

I remember the year we had to pitch Mangum, Blaylock, and Rooker. It was actually pretty funny when Mangum started on the mound and beat Ole Miss.

I have nightmares about 2009 and 2010. And defending Butch on Sixpack when some people blamed him for our pitching situation. Like he was supposed to do something with that group.
02-21-2022, 02:09 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Here's another thought on leaving Cade as Sunday starter and I'm not saying I would but just a thought. Cade against anyone else's #3 or bullpen gives us a real good shot to win every Sunday. I've seen other coaches do this before and like I said it's just an idea and one the staff maybe entertaining.

Usually that's because a team has an ace that's decent but near the bottom of their league but he's better than most everyone else's 3. And they figure they're going to lose to your ace anyway.

Been there and seen that before!

Usually those teams have some funky sidearm/submarine guy that they bring in like the third inning and he pitches until the eighth or ninth.

Actually, didn't we do that with Nick Routt and Caleb Reed under Cohen in like 2011? Probably just started Graveman on Saturday and hoped for the best.

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