Seems to be some smoke around us considering Jackie Sherrill basketball version

I'm fine with hiring Miller, but it's a very similar hire to Howland in many ways.

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

I?m glad I?m not the only one that thinks this wouldn?t be that great of a hire. It would just be Howland all over again with a lot of negative press. I want us to get someone with a more modern offense and a solid mid major coach that has showed consistent success for several years at that school. No more retread coaches.

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We're not very likely going to get a hot mid-major coach unless we make them an offer they cant refuse. And we are unlikely to do that. Which would force us to the asst coach route or someone currently out of coaching.

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

Bad press, possible NCAA investigations and/or penalties, loss of TV revenue, assuming they will be an entity in the future, and possible FBI investigations - fines/jail time like the assistant coach at Arizona received.

My question is, is it worth it?

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Yes. Ask LSU and Auburn. It?s worth it. And for the folks saying he slows it down he still was avg. high 70s in pts. We?re on pace to be in the mid 60s. Also I probably would slow it down too so that I could feed the ball to Lauri Markkanen or DeAndre Ayton

Hire him now. Let him finish the season.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I'm fine with hiring Miller, but it's a very similar hire to Howland in many ways.

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How so?

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

How so?

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A former coach who had a lot of success at a Pac-12 school with lot more tradition than us and more resources, whose last few years there weren't as good as the early years, but still good by our standards

Also run similar offensive and defensive styles, from what people say

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

Bad press, possible NCAA investigations and/or penalties, loss of TV revenue, assuming they will be an entity in the future, and possible FBI investigations - fines/jail time like the assistant coach at Arizona received.

My question is, is it worth it?

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Evah Damn Dime.

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Evah Damn Dime.

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LOL, got love it!!

Another part of this, if we go a different direction than Miller then that is who OM will hire. They are ready to pull the plug on Kermit and Carter is not scared to swing for the fences.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Another part of this, if we go a different direction than Miller then that is who OM will hire. They are ready to pull the plug on Kermit and Carter is not scared to swing for the fences.

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I expect Kermit gets another year.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Their unofficial field offices in Baton Rouge and Auburn have not seemed to bother Wade or Pearl. So maybe we should just risk that.

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Nah, they'll use us as an example. We'll be the exception to the status quo.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Nah, they'll use us as an example. We'll be the exception to the status quo.

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As long as the damage is contained to basketball, I'm willing to take the risk, lol. I mean, Stans was able to bypass the NCAA (mostly) unscathed, and that was before NIL. Don't know if Miller is THE GUY, but we gotta play the game.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

As long as the damage is contained to basketball, I'm willing to take the risk, lol. I mean, Stans was able to bypass the NCAA (mostly) unscathed, and that was before NIL. Don't know if Miller is THE GUY, but we gotta play the game.

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Oh, don't get me wrong, I am too! But we'll probably pay the price. That's okay, 1-2 years of making a serious run in the tourney would be worth it. MBGA!!!

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Originally Posted by msugolf

That he's basically a carbon copy of Ben Howland at UCLA. Runs a very similar offense, plays man to man defense 99 percent of the time, recruited inside top 10 every year, frustrated Arizona fans with his slow it down, feed the post offense with very little movement. It became clear his teams needed better talent than everyone else cause he wasn't going to out scheme them.

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That's BH's offense in theory, but don't we normally slow it down and take an ill-advised 3-pointer most of the time?

Guess we'll know if he takes the job. He could look at it like his last hurrah and go all in (with effort, I mean :rolleyes:). Or he could pull a Howland and bilk us for $20MM while we squalor in mediocrity.

Bracket gonna be mad!

What gets me about some of these posts is it seems alright to some to hire a coach with a highly checkered past for the sake of having a couple of good or great years before we get hammered by the NCAA or FBI or some other entity. I don't know it seems strange to me.

Why not have a lot term strategy in hiring a more reputable but capable coach? Don't ask me who, you guys have a better understanding of available coaches, their style of play and their past history.

What was it he did that was supposedly so bad? What is this baggage I keep hearing of?

Is Miller unemployed now?

I want a young hungry coach, not a retread. I want a guy who can win with inferior players. I want shooting. I want up-tempo. I want Man 2 Man defense AND zone concepts. I want a real basketball coach.

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Originally Posted by MoreCowbell

What was it he did that was supposedly so bad? What is this baggage I keep hearing of?

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He helped Argentina infiltrate a democratic election of a powerful sovereign state.***

I kid, I kid! ;)