CBS Mock Draft has Cross going 5th overall

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12-14-2021, 04:50 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I've said this before and have to say it again.

Most of us grew up fans of Miss State- going to games, listening on the radio...etc. Wearing the maroon and white with love.

Most of these players view college as a necessary stop on their way to the NFL. They feel the way about the NFL the way we do about college. Cross has achieved his goal- use his college time to get to The League. It's about getting paid- not playing in a meaningless bowl game thats for the fans and Seniors that have no chance to play again.

I honestly have no problem with the opt-outs of meaningless bowls. I'd prefer they play.
I tell you this - if my kid was suddenly offered the job as drummer in the Foo Fighters, he would be skipping out on the Valdosta State Marching Band ASAP. I don't care if they are leaving for Texas to play at the DII Title game on Saturday, his ass would be on a a plane to whatever city the Foos are in tonight.
12-14-2021, 04:50 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Jaylon Smith lost about 20 million dollars for choosing to play in the Fiesta Bowl. I doubt that douchebag in Baton Rouge has sent him a check.

I don't see how anyone can begrudge a 21 year old who isn't getting paid, while his coaches are making millions, sits out a meaningless bowl game to make sure that his future is secured.

And Jaylon Smith said he doesn't regret a thing and if given the chance to go back he still wouldn't change his mind on playing.
12-14-2021, 04:56 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

And Jaylon Smith said he doesn't regret a thing and if given the chance to go back he still wouldn't change his mind on playing.

Certainly his decision to make. If I'm his coach, I would feel a little guilty, but that is just me. To each his own.
12-14-2021, 04:59 PM
msstate7

I don't care either way on this subject. I think it's a good thing for us though Bc we get to use the whole practice session on a guy that might actually play the position for us next season.
12-14-2021, 05:05 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

But the Sugar Bowl is not an important playoff game this year.

But it's still an important game. Maybe not to you, but it obviously is to him. Guarantee if they were in the Liberty bowl, he wouldn't be playing.
12-14-2021, 05:16 PM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

But it's still an important game. Maybe not to you, but it obviously is to him. Guarantee if they were in the Liberty bowl, he wouldn't be playing.

Maybe or maybe not but the argument about getting hurt is mute in this case. The argument is any bowl not a play off is not worth getting hurt over. Me personally have no dog in the hunt. They are grown men and have their free agency to chose to do what they want. If it was me and I am old school I would play in the bowl game no matter what. Do I want Cross to play you dang right but if Cross wants to sit out that is good for me. Gives a younger guy a chance.
12-14-2021, 05:23 PM
Extendedcab

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

Maybe or maybe not but the argument about getting hurt is mute in this case. The argument is any bowl not a play off is not worth getting hurt over. Me personally have no dog in the hunt. They are grown men and have their free agency to chose to do what they want. If it was me and I am old school I would play in the bowl game no matter what. Do I want Cross to play you dang right but if Cross wants to sit out that is good for me. Gives a younger guy a chance.

Does no one keep their commitments anymore? Did not Cross sign a scholarship saying he would play in or be available to play (if physically capable) in ALL MSU games while on scholarship? Hey, if it is not convenient for me, what the hell, I will sit out and look out just for myself since I am so selfish and I don't honor my commitments! Is there no integrity anymore? I say fine him, make him pay money back to the university for opting out! The university lived up to their end of the bargain, so should he and others like him!
12-14-2021, 05:25 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

Does no one keep their commitments anymore? Did not Cross sign a scholarship saying he would play in or be available to play (if physically capable) in ALL MSU games while on scholarship? Hey, if it is not convenient for me, what the hell, I will sit out and look out just for myself since I am so selfish and I don't honor my commitments! Is there no integrity anymore? I say fine him, make him pay money back to the university for opting out! The university lived up to their end of the bargain, so should he and others like him!

Lol at this
12-14-2021, 06:17 PM
Dak Holliday

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

What's ironic is Corral is actually playing with his team.

I?m not privy to things some on here claim to know on Corral, but it seems like he?s come a long way since Big Brax saved his life in the 2018 EB.
12-14-2021, 06:32 PM
Extendedcab

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Lol at this

ROTFLMAO - So you are not a man of integrity are you? Do you keep your promises or adhere to agreements you sign? Remind me to never do business with you.
12-14-2021, 06:53 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

Does no one keep their commitments anymore? Did not Cross sign a scholarship saying he would play in or be available to play (if physically capable) in ALL MSU games while on scholarship? Hey, if it is not convenient for me, what the hell, I will sit out and look out just for myself since I am so selfish and I don't honor my commitments! Is there no integrity anymore? I say fine him, make him pay money back to the university for opting out! The university lived up to their end of the bargain, so should he and others like him!

Double LOL at this. Go yell at some kids on your lawn. And you're welcome not to do business with me as well. Lol. I guess you are mad he's skipping his senior season too?
12-14-2021, 07:19 PM
Dak Holliday

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Double LOL at this. Go yell at some kids on your lawn. And you're welcome not to do business with me as well. Lol. I guess you are mad he's skipping his senior season too?

Folks don?t realize how much has changed. Already getting this type of PR in a national outlet just before signing day. 😣

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/12/hey...kip-bowl-games
12-14-2021, 07:40 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

Does no one keep their commitments anymore? Is there no integrity anymore?

While I don't know if it should apply in this situation (football), please allow me to help with a couple of these questions (generally speaking)...

"No."

oh, and "No."....

https://youtu.be/irKn6ehjgIA
12-14-2021, 07:52 PM
TheLostDawg

The way I view it, unless it's a new years six, it doesn't matter if they shit. Better to get experience for next year. However if they are getting paid through nil deals then yes they should play.

The problem is we need to keep will healthy. Hopefully the next guy up can do enough for numerous reasons.
12-14-2021, 08:04 PM
OLJWales

Player at beginning of year : "hey coach, if my draft stock rises, you mind if I sit out the bowl game as long as it's not a NY6 Bowl?"

Coach : "sure kid, we will work around that for you"
12-14-2021, 08:53 PM
Dak Holliday

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Originally Posted by Dak Holliday

Folks don?t realize how much has changed. Already getting this type of PR in a national outlet just before signing day. 😣

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/12/hey...kip-bowl-games

https://deadspin.com/this-has-been-o...s-m-1848216430
12-14-2021, 09:05 PM
OLJWales

What Bull Shit Opinions. Childish tantrum hit pieces.
12-14-2021, 09:12 PM
Dak Holliday

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

What Bull Shit Opinions. Childish tantrum hit pieces.

Of course they are, but the farther society drifts away from the truth the more they will hate those that speak it. I just wish he weren?t so publicly vocal.
12-14-2021, 09:20 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

Does no one keep their commitments anymore? Did not Cross sign a scholarship saying he would play in or be available to play (if physically capable) in ALL MSU games while on scholarship? Hey, if it is not convenient for me, what the hell, I will sit out and look out just for myself since I am so selfish and I don't honor my commitments! Is there no integrity anymore? I say fine him, make him pay money back to the university for opting out! The university lived up to their end of the bargain, so should he and others like him!

Mother of God.
12-14-2021, 09:34 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

ROTFLMAO - So you are not a man of integrity are you? Do you keep your promises or adhere to agreements you sign? Remind me to never do business with you.

Based on your intellect that you've displayed with your posts, I'm cool with that

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