Watching the Oregon-Ohio State game

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09-11-2021, 03:18 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I don't think bama is close to them on D. Georgia has some weapons, and Clemson ain't no chumps on D... certainly not Miami

I don't see it.
09-11-2021, 03:25 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I don't see it.

It's hard to see it when Georgia hasn't beaten them, but they've had em beat twice and blew it. It might be in their DNA to blow it, but I think they're gonna do it soon... when it happens, saban's reign will end. I hope it's this year
09-11-2021, 03:51 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Better not sleep on Georgia

I agree. They look good
09-11-2021, 03:52 PM
Cowbell

Gun - they don't need as much offense when their defense is that good.
09-11-2021, 04:16 PM
OLJWales

One of the best SEC CHAMPIONSHIP games I ever saw was UGA-BAMA a while back. Hard hitting and tough.
09-11-2021, 04:18 PM
chef dixon

There was a disconnect for Moorhead here. Oregon's QB this year is basically the equivalent of KT but what the hell was he even trying to do here? He had an all time defense and an NFL running back.
09-11-2021, 04:28 PM
shoeless joe

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

There was a disconnect for Moorhead here. Oregon's QB this year is basically the equivalent of KT but what the hell was he even trying to do here? He had an all time defense and an NFL running back.

Short answer: he didn’t know how to deal with athletes from the south.
09-11-2021, 04:31 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

Short answer: he didn’t know how to deal with athletes from the south.

I hope Leach doesn't have the same issue. It may be why he doesn't care about instate recruiting

Due to Florida, Mullen came in with a PHD in how to do it
09-11-2021, 05:18 PM
BB30

Not really. Looked really similar to what we did when he was here. So did the final numbers.

Difference is those guys run his offense well and he has one of the best OL groups in the country.
09-11-2021, 09:14 PM
schddog72

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Moorhead is a good OC but he was over his head as a HC.

Maybe he should change his name to Moor(facial)HAIR!!
09-13-2021, 10:28 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by calidawg

Moorhead is used to tearing up big 10 defenses. It would be interesting to see him as an OC in the SEC, but his days in the SEC are over. I Would be surprised to see him back in SEC in any capacity, and I doubt he gets a HC job at any of the big conferences again. Leadership abilities just weren't there to manage a program in a major conference.

He will get another chance at HC. He is still pretty young and after a few years, people will forget how bad he actually was at managing a program and just see that his win totals weren't that bad. And in fairness he should get another shot. I don't know that I'd consider him an option if I were hiring for a P4 job, but I'd be willing to give him a shot at a G5 school if he does well as an OC for the next 4 years. He's definitely knkows enough football to be a good head caoch. It's just a question of whether he learned enough from his mistakes at State, and figure out how to fix them.
09-13-2021, 10:33 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

There is a #1 team & a huge drop off. There isn't really a 2-15 team this year

This is the truth. The chasm between Bama and the others has grown larger and larger over the years. Clemson was able to bottle something with elite QBs in Watson and Lawrence but it took generational talents for them to be able to compete. I really believe Georgia is the only team that can challenge Bama this year.
09-13-2021, 10:36 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

He will get another chance at HC. He is still pretty young and after a few years, people will forget how bad he actually was at managing a program and just see that his win totals weren't that bad. And in fairness he should get another shot. I don't know that I'd consider him an option if I were hiring for a P4 job, but I'd be willing to give him a shot at a G5 school if he does well as an OC for the next 4 years. He's definitely knkows enough football to be a good head caoch. It's just a question of whether he learned enough from his mistakes at State, and figure out how to fix them.

I believe Moorhead's biggest flaw was that he went from running a program at the FCS level with scholarships advantages, to Penn St and have a generational talent in Barkley. He then came and took over our program that had none of that. It was an even playing field and the athletic advantages he had at his other stops were null and void. I think this frustrated him because he started to believe that he was a play calling wizard that couldn't fail and this is where we saw the problems start to arise within the program.
09-13-2021, 11:15 AM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by msstate7

It's hard to see it when Georgia hasn't beaten them, but they've had em beat twice and blew it. It might be in their DNA to blow it, but I think they're gonna do it soon... when it happens, saban's reign will end. I hope it's this year

I hope a 9-3 east team that limps into Atlanta puts a whopping on Saban in the SEC Championship game. That would possibly force Bama to be the 2nd or 3rd seed. Either way, I hope Saban losses in the first round of the playoffs and never recovers and 3 years from now he retires.
I kind of hope it was Mullen that actually gets there and beats him.
09-13-2021, 03:08 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I believe Moorhead's biggest flaw was that he went from running a program at the FCS level with scholarships advantages, to Penn St and have a generational talent in Barkley. He then came and took over our program that had none of that. It was an even playing field and the athletic advantages he had at his other stops were null and void. I think this frustrated him because he started to believe that he was a play calling wizard that couldn't fail and this is where we saw the problems start to arise within the program.

There is probably something to all of that, but I think another big issue is he went from being head coach at Fordham, where I suspect the athletes could handle a lot more personal responsibility, to going to PSU, where Franklin took care of accountability, and then came to the SEC and thought athletes would respond to the same approach that his players at Fordham did.
09-13-2021, 04:34 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

It's hard to see it when Georgia hasn't beaten them, but they've had em beat twice and blew it. It might be in their DNA to blow it, but I think they're gonna do it soon... when it happens, saban's reign will end. I hope it's this year

They won't beat Bama. SEC/Refs will make sure of that like they did in the other 2 games.
09-13-2021, 04:52 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Hambone

Makes me wish Joe Moorhead would have worked out. That offense just looks awesome.

Not a slant towards Leach at all. Just saying I wish Moorhead could have figured it out.

Cristobal choosing who plays for Oregon. For him you gotta block, tackle, and catch the damn football. Moorhead's biggest mistake was starting Kylin over Aeris and letting Fitz get killed all the time. And 2nd to that was not making sure his WRs could catch the damn football. Our WRs look night and day different now when compared to JoMo's WRs and catching the football. Also, now JoMo can focus exclusively on play calling as OC and doesn't have any HC stuff to deal with.

Maybe he'll be a good HC sometime in the future, but even then probably won't be in the Sec.

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