Is Lemonis going with another one of his ?hunches? tomorrow

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06-14-2021, 09:38 AM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

It is different in todays game since there is a rule that getting kicked out of a game suspends you for the next game. Not many managers would go and kick dirt on the umpires feet if it meant not coaching the next game. Lemonis occasionally pushes it but Foxhall getting kicked out earlier this year caused him to not be able to call pitches in the next game.

Not only that. Ur the ones thinking or saying Lemonis is soft doesn’t have a damn clue. He doesn’t throw players under the bus during games nor at press conferences. He is tough as nails on them away from the cameras and spot light.
If some knew things I knew about what is going on they wouldn’t be so negative.
Hell Lemonis is perfect but neither are Van Horn and others. Talk about poor decisions, it showed big time yesterday when Kopps right out of juice. But kudos to Kopps, without him Ark wouldn’t have been near as good.
06-14-2021, 09:40 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by basedog

Not only that. Ur the ones thinking or saying Lemonis is soft doesn’t have a damn clue. He doesn’t throw players under the bus during games nor at press conferences. He is tough as nails on them away from the cameras and spot light.
If some knew things I knew about what is going on they wouldn’t be so negative.
Hell Lemonis is perfect but neither are Van Horn and others. Talk about poor decisions, it showed big time yesterday when Kopps right out of juice. But kudos to Kopps, without him Ark wouldn’t have been near as good.

Yeah, Lemonis ain't soft. That I agree with.
06-14-2021, 09:41 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

As terrible as these umps are - the more we rode them the worse they got. If Lemonis had started really arguing they would have run him. And it wouldn't change a damn thing.

I don't mind a coach getting tossed in a 9-1 game. He wasn't really doing much at that point. You think Cohen would sit on his hands? Hell no!
06-14-2021, 09:45 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by basedog

Coot, u make it sound like we aren’t even playing for a CWS spot. I know u and all of us want to win, but there aren’t many “Billy Martin” Coaches. Lemonis is done a fine job, if not explain what we suck so bad IYO.
You very seldom give credit but harp on “oh we aren’t worthy”.

Base, Lemonis is a good coach. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just saying we're seeing things that he needs to fix. This is only year 2 in the SEC for him. I think some things he's still got to figure out. I'm not saying fire the guy. But a blind, deaf goat can get us to post season. We need more than that.
06-14-2021, 09:46 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I don't mind a coach getting tossed in a 9-1 game. He wasn't really doing much at that point. You think Cohen would sit on his hands? Hell no!

I would've preferred to not have our HC be suspended for Game 3 with the season on the line. But hey, that's just me.
06-14-2021, 09:48 AM
Saltydog

I wouldn't use Simmons to close unless we have a large lead. Don't trust him that much.
06-14-2021, 09:49 AM
MedDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I doubt it. Harding has had some good starts. He beat a good Texas Tech in Biloxi and USM team as a starter while he has been at MSU. I know he has a bad start against Mizzou but he should get another chance.

In his last start in the regional, Harding pitched for 5 innings, 10 strikeouts, 2 walks, and 2 ER. Before that at Bama he pitched 5.2 innings, giving up 2 hits and 0 ER.
06-14-2021, 09:51 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I would've preferred to not have our HC be suspended for Game 3 with the season on the line. But hey, that's just me.

I'm pretty sure the manager doesn't also miss the next game. Any other player or coach does get an additional game suspension, but not the manager.
06-14-2021, 09:52 AM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I don't mind a coach getting tossed in a 9-1 game. He wasn't really doing much at that point. You think Cohen would sit on his hands? Hell no!

And if he got tossed, he's not around today. It's counter productive at this time of year to get yourself thrown out.
06-14-2021, 09:57 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

And if he got tossed, he's not around today. It's counter productive at this time of year to get yourself thrown out.

I don't think that's right. Everything I've found says the head coach just misses the rest of that game but any assistant, player, or other personnel will also be suspended an additional game.
06-14-2021, 10:03 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by smootness

I don't think that's right. Everything I've found says the head coach just misses the rest of that game but any assistant, player, or other personnel will also be suspended an additional game.

Maybe the tournament is different. I'm unaware that it is, but I was just assuming that ejection rules are blanket across all conferences.
06-14-2021, 10:11 AM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Base, Lemonis is a good coach. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just saying we're seeing things that he needs to fix. This is only year 2 in the SEC for him. I think some things he's still got to figure out. I'm not saying fire the guy. But a blind, deaf goat can get us to post season. We need more than that.

Coot, actually u have good points! But like u say it’s only his third year. He is smart and well spoken, he will have a different team next year, hopefully we get infielders and a few pitchers step up big time as far as our Sec rotation.
ND may smoke us today but IMO Harding has been our beat pitcher other than Sims the last few weeks. We just can’t walk batters and it’s a must playing flawless defense today.
Only thing I wish was starting time today. I was hoping for 1 or 2 game time. Crowd should be electric today!

I ain’t mad ain’t this team, we have some issues and again have over achieved big time as I never thought we would be playing for a chance to go to CWS.
06-14-2021, 10:20 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Maybe the tournament is different. I'm unaware that it is, but I was just assuming that ejection rules are blanket across all conferences.

Where have you seen that the manager gets an additional game suspension?
06-14-2021, 10:29 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by smootness

Where have you seen that the manager gets an additional game suspension?

I remember when Cohen got tossed in 2016 out in LA he had to sit for the Sunday game against Oklahoma. That's the last time I can remember a manager getting tossed for us.
06-14-2021, 10:31 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I remember when Cohen got tossed in 2016 out in LA he had to sit for the Sunday game against Oklahoma. That's the last time I can remember a manager getting tossed for us.

Hmmm. What I'm seeing is that the manager just has to sit out the rest of the game in which he was ejected, but that if he continues to argue and receives a misconduct after the ejection, he can be further suspended. I don't know, maybe what I'm seeing is wrong or maybe they've changed it since 2016. But it seems the manager can be ejected and come back the next game.
06-14-2021, 10:33 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by basedog

Coot, actually u have good points! But like u say it’s only his third year. He is smart and well spoken, he will have a different team next year, hopefully we get infielders and a few pitchers step up big time as far as our Sec rotation.
ND may smoke us today but IMO Harding has been our beat pitcher other than Sims the last few weeks. We just can’t walk batters and it’s a must playing flawless defense today.
Only thing I wish was starting time today. I was hoping for 1 or 2 game time. Crowd should be electric today!

I ain’t mad ain’t this team, we have some issues and again have over achieved big time as I never thought we would be playing for a chance to go to CWS.

Yeah, I'm a little brash and abrasive in my comments. But I'm just of the opinion you can't win big with bad defense. That's really my only knock with him at this point. And like I said, maybe that changes with his players coming in and taking over. The inconsistencies this year have worn on me I think. Maybe expectations were too high. I thought the pitching staff would get us top 4 and with luck, we'd have a shot at top 2. Got to win today to get there.
06-14-2021, 10:33 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by smootness

Hmmm. What I'm seeing is that the manager just has to sit out the rest of the game in which he was ejected, but that if he continues to argue and receives a misconduct after the ejection, he can be further suspended. I don't know, maybe what I'm seeing is wrong or maybe they've changed it since 2016. But it seems the manager can be ejected and come back the next game.

Well this did happen because he got tossed and then kept arguing and then Gavin Collins got tossed which made him even angrier.
06-14-2021, 10:59 AM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

He'll start Hootie and use Sims however he needs to use him. If it's early, then we'll get a big dose of we're 17'd the rest of the way.

It don't matter who we start if we don't hit.
06-14-2021, 11:02 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by parabrave

It don't matter who we start if we don't hit.

This is probably a bigger concern to me. We've got to hit better and have patience at the plate. We let their staff off the hook last night.
06-14-2021, 11:03 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by parabrave

It don't matter who we start if we don't hit.

True. And we never know when we will. Our patience at the plate and ability to read the pitch & adjust seems to have fallen off end of the year.

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