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Oh Dear, you are going to trigger some folks on this message boardQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Last we discussed- it?s our fault as fans she is losing, we are not backing and praying for her enough AND the apotheosis of the previous coach is wrong because he was never that good. Those final fours were an aberration and a collective delusion.
Fairness, can you really fire a coach after one season? Seems not right.
Hopefully Howland retires with a little nudge($$$). I agree there is no chance NMP is fired after 1 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I don’t see Howland retiring before next season because we could be pretty good.
It snowed in hell today....Niki got a break.
I dont see how. We have one decent front court player when he decides to give a shit and no true small forward. Love mol and dj but they can only do so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Maybe the bad winter weather will remind him how nice it is back in LA. I really, really like Howland personally but as a basketball coach he is a dinosaur.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
What makes you think we?ll be pretty good next season? The talent/inexperience BS isn?t the problem, it?s the HC leading them. If he?s back, that wouldn?t change next season and we?d underachieve yet again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We SHOULD be better next year, but he went one and done in the NCAAT with 3 NBA players, and then couldn't even make the tourney with two of those guys back + Tyson Carter. So color me skeptical.
Can we just knock down the ugly ass hump and create more parking for baseball?
The guys will never be back with fan support and NMP has brought one of the top ladies programs in the nation to its knees in record time.
Cohen doesn't get to make the next hire for either program.
7 of our top 9 players are Sophs or Freshmen. Teams always get better with age and experience. We will have the best backcourt in the SEC next yearQuote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
There is ZERO chance nmp gets let go, short of choking a player on tape. ZERO. None.
He might not. But if that's a fact, then why hasn't keenly fired him already??Quote:
Originally Posted by weblow
Nah not always. The fact is, the problem is the HC, not the ?youth? BS excuse some want to continue to push. If it?s youth, shouldn?t we be getting better as the season goes along as they gain experience? We?ve progressively gotten worse as the season has gone on. We just let Vandy, who had won 1 SEC game this year and like 4-5 total the last 3 years, beat us down in the Hump. Deivon Smith has made some small strides and Fountain had a nice game recently but as a team, we?ve gotten worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
One of the issues is that, in college basketball, there is never any real sure thing that players are going to return because of the constant draft risk and transfer risk. Its one of the things that has turned college basketball into such a hard to watch inferior product. Apparently, some mock drafts already have Stewart as a possible borderline 1st round pick. Don't know if that is realistic, but if for any reason Molinar or Stewart don't come back, then its right back to the drawing board and it will be another miserable season under a coach that plays as vanilla a style of basketball as I've ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I don't think it has anything to do with optics. Hard to pay buyouts for non-money making sports. Women's basketball was pretty beneficial to MSU under Vic as far as publicity goes, even if the hard numbers didn't show it being a money maker. But an above average woman's basketball team does basically nothing for us; has to be elite. And it's hard to pump money into it when it's unlikely the next hire will be elite either, just because so few are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
We lose our behinds in women's hoops. Even while packing the hump w Vic. I agree the elite comment. Uber elite helps in the PR Dept but that's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Agree, this team appears done. What a fall and disaster of a season. WBB is even worse, way worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
Don't disagree with general thought but we were elite when Vic left. #2 in nation the past 4-5 years in wins just a win behind Uconn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
I wasn't saying we weren't elite, I was saying we were elite, and even then, you have to rely on things like exposure and goodwill to make a case that any investments in women's basketball is beneficial to the school. If you're not elite, you get basically zero recognition. Most people won't be able to tell you a team that is above average but not elite. The teams that I can name as being good are basically national championship caliber teams. UConn, Baylor, USCe, Notre Dame. Beyond that, I have no clue who might be good right now or over the past 6 years. If we hadn't been good in basketball, I probably wouldn't have known anybody but UConn and Baylor, and the only reason I would know of Baylor is because we had to hear about it in baseball season when playing LSU. The only school you can be confident most sports fans will know is a good women's basketball program is UConn. We might be #2 without a national championship because people might be aware that we broke UConn's streak.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
It is astounding how much money we lost for being good in girls basketball !Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85