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We definitely don't make a big production out of it. I'd be OK if we did- however that would also probably end up like Leo Lewis every time we did it and we would probably have to hire security for our players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
At the same time- I agree. We need to step it up. The problem is our boosters just simply aren't all in. Especially in Madison. Our boosters suck there.
I'll repeat my post from above....Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Speaking for myself here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I've offered to put up what I can before to help. Only to get talked down or not get any information on what or who to send money to.
So it ends up a bunch of condescending comments like "yeah but you won't help" from others and I'm like no. But the people calling me out don't do anything to help the situation either.
And how many MSU fans are like me that would offer what they can but can't because they aren't given the information to the connections?
Where is the go fund me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I can't help if no one tells me what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I gotta $100 for a 5-star. Anyone know one on the take?**
What would happen if 10 people were willing to contribute 1000 dollars?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It may not surprise you to find out that there is no one to be connected to. State is woefully behind the curve in many things recruiting. The only surprise I ever have is that we actually win some recruiting battles. It’s candy from a baby for Ole Miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Why is it that we aren't organized in recruiting like other SEC schools?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
We seem to care, have the same size stadium as OM, & sell out games. So why are we so far behind in this area?
What do you attribute that to?
Not totally. Which makes the "well, why don't you step up" comments kind of hypocritical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
And you're absolutely right about MSU being behind the curve in recruiting. It's like- "Hey let Hughes, Gibson, Mason Smith, and Peterson handle it all. We'll be OK."
homedawg@nigerianprince.comQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Not dawgology but...Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I think most of it is our MSU culture and attitude when you get to the root of it.
"Oh we'll probably get caught and put on probation that's what happened 40+ years ago."
"I don't really care about recruiting".
And then allowing good old boys to stay in charge of the compliance department while being out of date with current compliance in this era. Not holding lazy recruiters accountable in the past because we might "upset the coach".
Also we don't have enough boosters that are like "Dammit- we're getting that kid of Madison Central or wherever I don't care how much it costs."
Basically we're recruiting like it's 2008.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Other schools have ex NCAA compliance lawyers running their show; we......have someone else. That in a nutshell, if nothing else, just shows how inept we are at playing the game. It's like stepping up to the plate with 2 strikes already. Why tf would you self-sabotage like that?
I don't buy this because Cohen & Keenum want to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
If Bracky were truly the problem, he would've been removed.
I get that he's an easy target, but I just don't buy him as the problem.
And there is a very simple solution. Hire a group that only does football compliance and let the good old boy handle everything else. Problem solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I don't think it's a "we don't want to win" problem. It's a we don't know HOW to win problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
It's like Polk only recruiting baseball players coming into their senior year in 2006.
I'm not saying that Bracky IS the problem, I'm saying he's a symptom of OUR problem....that we refuse to get serious about playing the game the way it's played. If we were serious, we'd hire serious people who have experience with such things.....not buddies/friends of the program who are "all dawg" and love MSU. That only gets you so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Couldn't have said it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
And I'll piggyback on my comment...
Dan did a GREAT job of showing MSU how to run a program. Except in one area. We all know what area that is.
That's why I'm saying it's a we don't know HOW to win issue. If we weren't serious about winning we wouldn't be pumping the money into facilities and coaches like we are. I believe we would pump more money into recruiting if we knew what to do. There's more to it than hiring a few coaches that "know high school coaches."
We won't play the game well enough. You dont know my situation so you can pipe down. I'm not complaining. I'm making a statement. We won't play the game so there is no need complaining when we we lose recruits. Either people with connections get better at it, or we will keep having the same conversations like we do every year before an upcoming signing day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg