Hoops game tonight

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

He signed two players that won't play for MSU in 2013 and 1 of those never will. Those details get remembered.

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Refresh my memory on the player that never will, please? My memory is a little fuzzy.

Travis Daniels and you could also add Quantel Denson to the list. Missing on 3 out of 4 signees is a recipe for disaster. Ray needs about 4 straight seasons he doesn't miss on the guys he signs.

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully01

So in other words you are gong with the five year plan in a sport where one player can make a difference whether you are average or great. I think a fair amount of time to judge a coach in college basketball is three years. If he isn't doing it in three, he isn't going to do it.

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well you can give that up- Ray will be here 4 years at least. Last year didnt even count in the Administration's mind- that went on Stands. In their eyes- this is Year 1

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully01

So in other words you are gong with the five year plan in a sport where one player can make a difference whether you are average or great. I think a fair amount of time to judge a coach in college basketball is three years. If he isn't doing it in three, he isn't going to do it.

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Amen, You speak the truth. In Basketball three years is plenty of time .

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully01

So in other words you are gong with the five year plan in a sport where one player can make a difference whether you are average or great. I think a fair amount of time to judge a coach in college basketball is three years. If he isn't doing it in three, he isn't going to do it.

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This is absurd. Just because one player can make the difference doesn't mean that a coach that doesn't immediately pull in studs in recruiting won't ever win. That's a joke.

Look at Tom Crean's record his first 3 years at Indiana. And keep in mind, that was Tom Crean, a known quantity with proven success in a major conference, and it was at Indiana, with way more advantages in their basketball program than a place like State.

I don't get this idea that just because there are fewer players and each individual recruit is more important, it means a coach better get it done quicker. It still takes time to build something unless you're John Calipari and every top recruit in the country follows you wherever you go.

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully01

So in other words you are gong with the five year plan in a sport where one player can make a difference whether you are average or great. I think a fair amount of time to judge a coach in college basketball is three years. If he isn't doing it in three, he isn't going to do it.

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It took Andy Kennedy, what, 6?, years to make the NCAA Tournament...