OM is going to skull drug us for next 2 years

Got to get rid of the dead weight. We still have a few playing that don?t give a shit

They do not give a shit because they know the coach is an outdated, all-figured-out idiot

Ha. Same thoughts after week 1? Bet not.

So your answer? Love to know

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Originally Posted by Dawgcap

Ha. Same thoughts after week 1? Bet not.

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Of course not, but things change. We have no answers for zone defense. Hell, look at OM struggling vs the same ark defense, and then they had an answer for it immediately the next week when auburn did it. We're headed into our 5th straight game of it, and still, no adjustments.

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Of course not, but things change. We have no answers for zone defense. Hell, look at OM struggling vs the same ark defense, and then they had an answer for it immediately the next week when auburn did it. We're headed into our 5th straight game of it, and still, no adjustments.

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Yep. Bo Pelini was an idiot and LSU is terrible. We caught them completely off guard and now everyone has the tape. We just didn't know that at the time.

How the human mind works is amazing.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

One we fired Moorhead at LEAST one year too soon

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We fired Moorhead too late. He was terrible. Every minute we kept him he was hurting the program. The program would be better off if we would've ditched him after 2018

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

They do not give a shit because they know the coach is an outdated, all-figured-out idiot

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This isn't true

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As bad as it may get this year, I think it's still important that we see the big picture and Leach's history says that he does build winning programs in time.

If I'm Cohen, I leave Leach alone this season and let him do his thing. However, if we have similar issues in 2021, then I'm asking hard questions to better understand why moving the football is so hard

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Yep, free year for CML. If we still look like this next year on O, time to start discussions.

It is amazing that it is Sunday (not Saturday night where people are heated) and we still have people that think Leach could get fired next year. Some of you have no sense of reality. I will make a bet with anyone on here and we can pin it to the top. Name the price. Barring Leach getting caught with naked pictures of him and a goat he will be our football coach in 2022. The lack of awareness on here is astounding.

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It is amazing that it is Sunday (not Saturday night where people are heated) and we still have people that think Leach could get fired next year. Some of you have no sense of reality. I will make a bet with anyone on here and we can pin it to the top. Name the price. Barring Leach getting caught with naked pictures of him and a goat he will be our football coach in 2022. The lack of awareness on here is astounding.

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The same thing was said about Joe Moorhead. If we go 2-8/1-9 and then three wins or fewer next year with a still MIA offense, Leach will be done next November.

I'm more concerned with keeping the recruits that we have committed more so than any wins and losses to come in the next few weeks. If our top 5-6 commits start jumping ship it's going to get bad. I don't see us figuring out anything on O the rest of the year, but we have to have some help come in the form of the Jimmy's and the Joe's or we're going to see a repeat of this next year. We'll be better just because of maturity and reps, but we've got to upgrade our roster.

I know not every player is going to be an NFL player, but just look at our offense when it's on the field, and look at the defense when it's on the field. Does any player jump out to you like a Jeffrey Simmons? A Montez Sweat? A Jonathan Abram? A Cam Dantzler? Not much to choose from on offense....A Dak Prescott? Hell, I'd settle for just some good college players like a Jameon Lewis or Fred Ross.

I know we've got some really young guys playing....but do any of them remind you of the guys I listed above when they were young? I see some flashes with Emerson and Crumedy. Even Forbes has shown me a glimpse at times of these guys named above. But they are few and far between. We've got to improve our roster big time. And honestly, this crop committed, while I think really good at QB and WR....top to bottom I'm not sure improves the roster that much.

My concern from the beginning is Leach and coaches seeing better players than they were used to at Wash. St. and thinking "this guy" is better than "so and so" that we had, and "so and so" was really good for us, so "this guy" is going to be really, really good. But in hindsight, while "this guy" may be better than "so and so" that they had at Wash. St., he is not up to SEC standards. I pray that is not happening with this years class and Leach has to find out the hard way by seeing them once they get on campus next year.

I'm disappointed just like the rest of you, but I'm going to back the coach as long as he's here and just hope he figures it out. I'm not going to pick sides and say he will figure it out or pick the side that he won't and hope i'm right just so I can tell people on a message board that I don't even know that I was right all along. I'm just going to continue to pull for my school and go into every game wanting to win it. Time will tell.

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The same thing was said about Joe Moorhead. If we go 2-8/1-9 and then three wins or fewer next year with a still MIA offense, Leach will be done next November.

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Put your money where your mouth is. If you don’t understand the difference in those 2 situations and why Moorhead being fired after 2 actual full years (not 1 year and another crazy covid year where he didn’t even get a spring) prevents us from being able to quickly fire another coach in that same time span I will gladly take whatever amount of money you want to Throw down the toilet. We would hire the equivalent of Rick Ray if our leadership was dumb enough to do that, and they will not.

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The same thing was said about Joe Moorhead. If we go 2-8/1-9 and then three wins or fewer next year with a still MIA offense, Leach will be done next November.

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Moorhead had some things happen that were clearly in the scandal territory- even though there weren't any scandals other than Tutor Gate. He was going off on our fans in press conferences while players were getting into fights with each other in practice. Nobody at any university wants to support that kind of a product. And it's embarrassing when we lose our QB because of that. I bet we win three OOC games alone next year at least.

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I'm more concerned with keeping the recruits that we have committed more so than any wins and losses to come in the next few weeks. If our top 5-6 commits start jumping ship it's going to get bad. I don't see us figuring out anything on O the rest of the year, but we have to have some help come in the form of the Jimmy's and the Joe's or we're going to see a repeat of this next year. We'll be better just because of maturity and reps, but we've got to upgrade our roster.

I know not every player is going to be an NFL player, but just look at our offense when it's on the field, and look at the defense when it's on the field. Does any player jump out to you like a Jeffrey Simmons? A Montez Sweat? A Jonathan Abram? A Cam Dantzler? Not much to choose from on offense....A Dak Prescott? Hell, I'd settle for just some good college players like a Jameon Lewis or Fred Ross.

I know we've got some really young guys playing....but do any of them remind you of the guys I listed above when they were young? I see some flashes with Emerson and Crumedy. Even Forbes has shown me a glimpse at times of these guys named above. But they are few and far between. We've got to improve our roster big time. And honestly, this crop committed, while I think really good at QB and WR....top to bottom I'm not sure improves the roster that much.

My concern from the beginning is Leach and coaches seeing better players than they were used to at Wash. St. and thinking "this guy" is better than "so and so" that we had, and "so and so" was really good for us, so "this guy" is going to be really, really good. But in hindsight, while "this guy" may be better than "so and so" that they had at Wash. St., he is not up to SEC standards. I pray that is not happening with this years class and Leach has to find out the hard way by seeing them once they get on campus next year.

I'm disappointed just like the rest of you, but I'm going to back the coach as long as he's here and just hope he figures it out. I'm not going to pick sides and say he will figure it out or pick the side that he won't and hope i'm right just so I can tell people on a message board that I don't even know that I was right all along. I'm just going to continue to pull for my school and go into every game wanting to win it. Time will tell.

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Why do MSU fans worry about the negative side of recruiting like this? Most recruits are going to look at us and see an opportunity to play and potentially start in the SEC right away. How many freshmen did Alabama start last night? How many are starting across the SEC? We don't have anyone on our team like Teddy Knox and Malik Nabors will contribute and play right away next year as well. What do you think they are thinking when they see Osiris drop another pass or lose a battle in the end zone? I can't tell you- "I don't think I'm better than that guy" isn't crossing their mind at all when they see that.

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They do not give a shit because they know the coach is an outdated, all-figured-out idiot

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They don't give a shit because they had a good ole boy coach, and they could go to the water park and basically do whatever they wanted to do, or not do concerning our football program

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

They don't give a shit because they had a good ole boy coach, and they could go to the water park and basically do whatever they wanted to do, or not do concerning our football program

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I have to spread more rep before I give it to yjinkdawg again.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

We self destructed. One we fired Moorhead at LEAST one year too soon. Then we compounded that by hiring a clown who is totally dependent on an outdated offense. I put that squarely on the inexperienced and no way qualified for the job he holds, John Cohen.

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No discipline and being a good ole boy coach? Just more malcontent to deal with probably.

Y'all do know Jackie only won 1 SEC game His first year. To me the most glaring problem we have is we have pitiful WRs. Who is a SEC receiver. Osiris is soft as charming . Heath is average as is Payton. Our best receiver was Kylin Hill. Until we get SEC receivers Leach's air raid will sux.

If you are basing your projection on how the OM offense was so successful against Bama, Bama's defense has figured it out now. That was a SNAFU Bama defensive effort and it embarrassed Saban big time.