NCAA Give All Spring Sports Athletes Another Year....

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Originally Posted by Pinto

I know leach will never go for it, but just for boredom sakes - say a school did put 10 baseball guys on football scholarships. Is that allowed? How does that count on baseball scholarships?

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I think that would actually be OK, but no one has ever tried it due to obvious reasons.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

It's like he's never thought about this & is now asking the right questions. In about 3 more posts & questions, he'll agree with us.

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All things being equal on the injury front, the elite teams will STILL have marginally more talent.

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Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder

All things being equal on the injury front, the elite teams will STILL have marginally more talent.

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Agree, but the key word in your sentence is MARGINALLY

Currently it's not MARGINALLY. MARGINALLY would greatly increase the competition & popularity of college football. Similar to how MARGINALLY has increased the popularity of the NFL

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Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder

All things being equal on the injury front, the elite teams will STILL have marginally more talent.

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agree ... but maybe instead of that 4 or 5 star back-up sitting on the bench now is starting somewhere else on another team ... I can see a trickle down effect possibly

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Agree, but the key word in your sentence is MARGINALLY

Currently it's not MARGINALLY. MARGINALLY would greatly increase the competition & popularity of college football. Similar to how MARGINALLY has increased the popularity of the NFL

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Ok. I'd love to see it happen just to see if your theory is proven or disproven. We will still have one of the lowest recruiting budgets in the SEC. It will probably help the cheaters up north more than us, to be honest. Do you want that?

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Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder

Ok. I'd love to see it happen just to see if your theory is proven or disproven. We will still have one of the lowest recruiting budgets in the SEC. It will probably help the cheaters up north more than us, to be honest. Do you want that?

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- Yes I want that because I want a greater chance, at least a chance at winning a national title. Regardless of how it effects OM. It only makes the Egg Bowl & Mississippi CFB better.

- Yes, Southern Miss would also have a greater chance at beating us, but I'm fine with that because it brings with it a greater chance of MSU winning & other teams winning big. It's brings more drama to the sport.

- So many people in this discussion talk about their fears of lesser programs narrowing the gap, but I prefer to look at the upside of how it would overall help the sport.

- You love to see if my theory is proven or disproven? What theory do I have? I don't see a theory here. I see a fact. College football would undoubtedly become more competitive with reduced scholarships. Maybe not so much at first with who won the natty, but the games themselves would become much more competitive.

- There are few things college football wise that is worse than tuning into a the CBS 2:30 game & seeing blowouts most weekends. That sucks & does nothing to the increase the popularity of the sport, financials of the sports, & the enjoyment of watching the sport.

- The point differential in NFL games is 3 points. My guess is that the CBS 2:30 game's average point differential is closer to double digits. That's a problem.

- Our recruiting budget is low, but I think that's mostly by choice. We likely believe that we can get the same caliber of player within 3 hours of Starkville than we can by going to California. My guess is that as our brand increases, so will our recruiting budget. Actually, I bet it's bigger this year since Leach allows us to recruit more nationally

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

- Yes I want that because I want a greater chance, at least a chance at winning a national title. Regardless of how it effects OM. It only makes the Egg Bowl & Mississippi CFB better.

- Yes, Southern Miss would also have a greater chance at beating us, but I'm fine with that because it brings with it a greater chance of MSU winning & other teams winning big. It's brings more drama to the sport.

- So many people in this discussion talk about their fears of lesser programs narrowing the gap, but I prefer to look at the upside of how it would overall help the sport.

- You love to see if my theory is proven or disproven? What theory do I have? I don't see a theory here. I see a fact. College football would undoubtedly become more competitive with reduced scholarships. Maybe not so much at first with who won the natty, but the games themselves would become much more competitive.

- There are few things college football wise that is worse than tuning into a the CBS 2:30 game & seeing blowouts most weekends. That sucks & does nothing to the increase the popularity of the sport, financials of the sports, & the enjoyment of watching the sport.

- The point differential in NFL games is 3 points. My guess is that the CBS 2:30 game's average point differential is closer to double digits. That's a problem.

- Our recruiting budget is low, but I think that's mostly by choice. We likely believe that we can get the same caliber of player within 3 hours of Starkville than we can by going to California. My guess is that as our brand increases, so will our recruiting budget. Actually, I bet it's bigger this year since Leach allows us to recruit more nationally

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Well the expert has spoken. With over 30,000 comments, your credibility is solid****

Hope you felt a bit of gratification being snarky towards me in your replies to the other guy in this thread. Your yearning for validation comes thru loud and clear.

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Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder

Well the expert has spoken. With over 30,000 comments, your credibility is solid****

Hope you felt a bit of gratitude being snarky towards me in your replies to the other guy in this thread. Your yearning for validation comes thru loud and clear.

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Sheesh. Relax Judy

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

- Yes I want that because I want a greater chance, at least a chance at winning a national title. Regardless of how it effects OM. It only makes the Egg Bowl & Mississippi CFB better.

- Yes, Southern Miss would also have a greater chance at beating us, but I'm fine with that because it brings with it a greater chance of MSU winning & other teams winning big. It's brings more drama to the sport.

- So many people in this discussion talk about their fears of lesser programs narrowing the gap, but I prefer to look at the upside of how it would overall help the sport.

- You love to see if my theory is proven or disproven? What theory do I have? I don't see a theory here. I see a fact. College football would undoubtedly become more competitive with reduced scholarships. Maybe not so much at first with who won the natty, but the games themselves would become much more competitive.

- There are few things college football wise that is worse than tuning into a the CBS 2:30 game & seeing blowouts most weekends. That sucks & does nothing to the increase the popularity of the sport, financials of the sports, & the enjoyment of watching the sport.

- The point differential in NFL games is 3 points. My guess is that the CBS 2:30 game's average point differential is closer to double digits. That's a problem.

- Our recruiting budget is low, but I think that's mostly by choice. We likely believe that we can get the same caliber of player within 3 hours of Starkville than we can by going to California. My guess is that as our brand increases, so will our recruiting budget. Actually, I bet it's bigger this year since Leach allows us to recruit more nationally

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You make some good points. However, It doesn't matter if you are right or not. They aren't about to take away 10 scholarships and give them to baseball Bc that's what's right or whether or not you want to. They powers that be voted down paying a volunteer coach for baseball which is WAY cheaper than adding scholarships. It's not going to happen. And it won't ever happen until the p5 break off and form their own gig. Whenever that might be. But it's not about to happen soon. But you can start 15 more threads about it if it makes you feel better. Either way beating you head against the wall or typing it on a message board isn't going to make it happen

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

You make some good points. However, It doesn't matter if you are right or not. They aren't about to take away 10 scholarships and give them to baseball Bc that's what's right or whether or not you want to. They powers that be voted down paying a volunteer coach for baseball which is WAY cheaper than adding scholarships. It's not going to happen. And it won't ever happen until the p5 break off and form their own gig. Whenever that might be. But it's not about to happen soon. But you can start 15 more threads about it if it makes you feel better. Either way beating you head against the wall or typing it on a message board isn't going to make it happen

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This! Ron Polk tilted at that windmill for years. Common sense and the ncaa don't belong in the same sentence. They could remedy a lot of this but they won't.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

You make some good points. However, It doesn't matter if you are right or not. They aren't about to take away 10 scholarships and give them to baseball Bc that's what's right or whether or not you want to. They powers that be voted down paying a volunteer coach for baseball which is WAY cheaper than adding scholarships. It's not going to happen. And it won't ever happen until the p5 break off and form their own gig. Whenever that might be. But it's not about to happen soon. But you can start 15 more threads about it if it makes you feel better. Either way beating you head against the wall or typing it on a message board isn't going to make it happen

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I didn't start this thread to debate this.

Secondly, you're right. Nothing will be done in the short term. However, if this idea is entered into the regular public conscious, then something may happen eventually

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I didn't start this thread to debate this.

Secondly, you're right. Nothing will be done in the short term. However, if this idea is entered into the regular public conscious, then something may happen eventually

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I recognize you didn't start this particular thread. But you have started more than one on the same subject. Again, I agree w you. Baseball is getting screwed. Have been forever. Is what it is.

I'd be fine with cutting ten even if they don't go to baseball. Which is more likely than them getting cut and going to baseball, honestly.

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Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder

See my response to Shotgun. If we have a rash of injuries in a particular position group we will have walkons out there against the likes of the 4 and 5-star Bamas and LSUs of the world and get crushed.

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I think you are really reaching on this. If we get a rash of injuries at a position, whether you are playing one of your last 10 on scholarship or walkons, you are still in a world of hurt. Heck, in any sport, if you get a rash of injuries its a big problem. Basketball only gets 13 scholarships and you have to deal with starter injuries there too. Bottom line is we will likely never have the depth AL and LSU and some of the other power programs have no matter what the scholarship count is.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

You make some good points. However, It doesn't matter if you are right or not. They aren't about to take away 10 scholarships and give them to baseball Bc that's what's right or whether or not you want to. They powers that be voted down paying a volunteer coach for baseball which is WAY cheaper than adding scholarships. It's not going to happen. And it won't ever happen until the p5 break off and form their own gig. Whenever that might be. But it's not about to happen soon. But you can start 15 more threads about it if it makes you feel better. Either way beating you head against the wall or typing it on a message board isn't going to make it happen

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Apples and Oranges. If you held the vote for the extra baseball coach with the same schools that play FBS football it would pass with no problem. Its the FCS schools that have D1 status in basketball and baseball that are the problem because baseball is a money loser for them. There needs to be an FBS/FCS type split of D1 for basketball and baseball just like there is for football.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Its the FCS schools that have D1 status in basketball and baseball that are the problem because baseball is a money loser for them. There needs to be an FBS/FCS type split of D1 for basketball and baseball just like there is for football.

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Rosebowl talked about this on his podcast. I don't know about basketball, but it needs to happen in baseball. It's not our fault the smaller programs and the northern schools lose money on baseball. The NCAA needs to die a slow death and let the super conferences govern themselves.