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03-11-2020, 04:31 PM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

This is either a HUGE overreaction or a massive coverup regarding how dangerous this virus is.

Or on an individual level most people are fine without much more than cold/flu like symptoms, but because of how contagious it is, even a small percentage requiring medica care would completely overwhelm the healthcare system if everyone got sick at the same time. All everyone is trying to do is prevent folks from dying because we can't find them a ventilator, much less get them into a hospital. This is about preventing a major healthcare crisis if thousands of folks suddenly need medical attention, not about the majority of people who only get a mild fever and stuffy nose.
03-11-2020, 04:34 PM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

The reaon I said that is that new reports are coming out in regards to COVID-19 indicating that it has already hit the top of the bell curve in Chine and is drastically trending down with the mortality rate plummeting. I also read a report this morning via NYT where they were reporting that COVID-19 appears to be less contagious than the common flu. Did they cancel the NCAA tournaments for Ebola or SARS? I honestly can't remember.

Well Ebola required contact with bodily fluids, which isn't common for folks to contact at sporting events. SARS didn't cause an entire major European country to shut down its borders and put the country on quarantine either. Only a little over 8,000 SARS cases were reported, compared to 113,000 and growing number of folks drunk on the coronavirus. So the scope of this is much larger than anything we've seen in my lifetime. And compared to swine flu/h1n1 and Zika, those each had much lower mortality rates. And we still may surpass the billion of so people that contracted swine flu if models showing 40-70% of the worlds population will contract the coronavirus are correct.
03-11-2020, 04:45 PM
deadheaddawg

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

The reaon I said that is that new reports are coming out in regards to COVID-19 indicating that it has already hit the top of the bell curve in Chine and is drastically trending down with the mortality rate plummeting. I also read a report this morning via NYT where they were reporting that COVID-19 appears to be less contagious than the common flu. Did they cancel the NCAA tournaments for Ebola or SARS? I honestly can't remember.

It's trending down in China because they went to extreme measures to lock down people.

We can't do that here because too many people are dumb and think this is no more dangerous than the flu
03-11-2020, 04:49 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Wow. Gotta think baseball won't be too far behind unless this thing lightens up big time over the next few months.

Perhaps - one good thing about baseball is that it's played outside. That may or may not make any difference in the proliferation of the virus.

Just to be on the safe side, it might be wise to stop shaking hands when you meet someone.
03-11-2020, 04:52 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If we get in, watch out... this will be like playing at home

Yes, huge advantage for us. **
03-11-2020, 04:55 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgs

Well Ebola required contact with bodily fluids, which isn't common for folks to contact at sporting events. SARS didn't cause an entire major European country to shut down its borders and put the country on quarantine either. Only a little over 8,000 SARS cases were reported, compared to 113,000 and growing number of folks drunk on the coronavirus. So the scope of this is much larger than anything we've seen in my lifetime. And compared to swine flu/h1n1 and Zika, those each had much lower mortality rates. And we still may surpass the billion of so people that contracted swine flu if models showing 40-70% of the worlds population will contract the coronavirus are correct.

40-70% of the world's population? What is that based on? China is ground zero... their population is around 1.4 billion with say 100,000 cases (number being reported is ~ 81,000) is 0.0000714 of the Chinese population
03-11-2020, 04:58 PM
WinningIsRelentless

China is 10x worse than what they are reporting. They control the media over there and aren?t truthful about anything.
03-11-2020, 04:59 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by deadheaddawg

It's trending down in China because they went to extreme measures to lock down people.

We can't do that here because too many people are dumb and think this is no more dangerous than the flu

Yes, they drastically limited contact. I know a person who's son is in China. He and his wife were essentially not allowed to leave their apartment. The could not go shopping. Food had to be delivered to them, and then only payment by credit card - no transfer of cash. When using the elevator, they had to punch the buttons with a pen containing a special fluid (probably just alcohol). Those are just examples of the restrictions.
03-11-2020, 05:04 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

China is 10x worse than what they are reporting. They control the media over there and aren?t truthful about anything.

Let's say it's a 100x worse... 10,000,000 cases with a population of 1.4 billion is 0.0071 of their population has it. 40-70% of the world's population is quite a reach, eh?
03-11-2020, 05:06 PM
RocketDawg

There was a large USAA conference set for next week in Huntsville with 6,800 participants. It's been canceled because of the virus. That's a huge hit to the economy of the city, and is just one of many cancellations already announced or coming. Delta said passenger traffic is down about 30% systemwide (I think that's the number given on the Weather Channel this morning).
03-11-2020, 05:07 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

You should read more reports... the amount of people in America is doubling every day now. This crap about it being less deadly than the common flu is just dumb. Just now, Italy just reported 200 people died in the past 24 hours.

He didn't say it was less deadly. Read it again.
03-11-2020, 05:12 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

This is either a HUGE overreaction or a massive coverup regarding how dangerous this virus is.

I'm sure insurance companies are driving this
03-11-2020, 05:12 PM
MrKotter

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

You should read more reports... the amount of people in America is doubling every day now. This crap about it being less deadly than the common flu is just dumb. Just now, Italy just reported 200 people died in the past 24 hours.

Read what is posted before overreacting
03-11-2020, 05:13 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by msstate7

40-70% of the world's population? What is that based on? China is ground zero... their population is around 1.4 billion with say 100,000 cases (number being reported is ~ 81,000) is 0.0000714 of the Chinese population

German chancellor announced they are expecting at least 70% of their population to get exposure, fwiw.
03-11-2020, 05:15 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

There was a large USAA conference set for next week in Huntsville with 6,800 participants. It's been canceled because of the virus. That's a huge hit to the economy of the city, and is just one of many cancellations already announced or coming. Delta said passenger traffic is down about 30% systemwide (I think that's the number given on the Weather Channel this morning).

We aren't alone in this. Italy just announced they are closing all retail stores, bars, and restaurants. Only stores that will remain open are groceries and pharmacies.
03-11-2020, 05:17 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

German chancellor announced they are expecting at least 70% of their population to get exposure, fwiw.

Are "exposure" and "contraction" the same? I really don't know the terminology
03-11-2020, 05:23 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Are "exposure" and "contraction" the same? I really don't know the terminology

No, they are NOT the same thing.
03-11-2020, 05:25 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

No, they are NOT the same thing.

Didn't think so. It would be interesting to know the contraction rate among the exposed group.
03-11-2020, 05:26 PM
WinningIsRelentless

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'm sure insurance companies are driving this

Hell no they aren?t. They are about to take a killing because of all of this.
03-11-2020, 05:26 PM
Liverpooldawg

One number I'd like to see, and I haven't seen it from anywhere, is what % of the "self isolated" people who have been exposed actually go on to get the disease.

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