Sec ranks in winning % in big 3 last 3 years (sec games only)

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Originally Posted by Joebob

The students don’t get excited for the same reason I don’t. It’s the way the team plays. Why is that so hard to understand?

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Disagree, times have changed, Msy students as a whole could care less about basketball. They don't pack the Hump for the women's games either.

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Originally Posted by Joebob

The students don?t get excited for the same reason I don?t. It?s the way the team plays. Why is that so hard to understand?

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The way the team plays...... wow.. Too bad we aren?t the ?96 Chicago Bulls I guess..
just curious what college teams style of play do you like ..

And It?s ok.. maybe men?s college hoops just isnt for you..

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Originally Posted by basedog

Disagree, times have changed, Msy students as a whole could care less about basketball. They don't pack the Hump for the women's games either.

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If that’s the case, and it may very well be , why is the excuse used ALL the time about the student seating? So if they had Better seats they would come then ? They have 4-5 sections in the lower bowl right now

I'm starting to think the only way fans would return to men's hoops games is if we sucked in everything else.

Student Attendance Dropping for Duke Men?s Basketball Games

Chris Brown/FanSided Jun 30, 2017

https://www.foxsports.com/college-ba...l-games-011917
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Gonzaga Has a Student Attendance Issue

You can hear a pin drop in The Kennel.

By Peter Woodburn on December 5, 2019

https://www.slipperstillfits.com/201...tudent-section

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Why Colleges Are Worried About Declining Student Sports Attendance

https://www.samford.edu/sports-analy...-alumni-giving

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

The OM game ended all support (that was there) just about like Morehead losing to Mullen. Fans are tired of watching that kind of crap.

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This is the truth. All our fans are concerned with is beating Ole Miss in anything. It's why there were 9500 fans at the women's game that State won by 60.

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

Part of the problem is that we lose some games we shouldn't but we rarely beat a team that's better than us...?.We wouldn't be in this mess right now if we'd won games against NMSU, La Tech, UM, A&M...?..That is compounded by the perceived lack of effort in some of those...?.If we'd just won two of those, this probably isn't a discussion right now.....

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We Beat Auburn last season at home with minimal fan support. They were a late game blunder away from playing for the national championship.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Yeah, losing to La Tech, OM, NMSU etc. should be expected***

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Kind of like losing to an 0-9 Texas Southern team?

Oh well That's Baseball...* Amiright?

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Kind of like losing to an 0-9 Texas Southern team?

Oh well That's Baseball...* Amiright?

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Add South Alabama beating a DM team in football, how bout NLU beating a JWS team in football or how bout this good one, Sly beating Saban in football**** It happens says Forrest Gump!

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Originally Posted by basedog

Add South Alabama beating a DM team in football, how bout NLU beating a JWS team in football or how bout this good one, Sly beating Saban in football**** It happens says Forrest Gump!

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Sly beating Saban is honestly the biggest coaching upset in the history of college football. Bama wasn't really anything special in 07' but the fact that Croom beat Saban is mind boggling.

Some fans will still defend Croom because of it. Insane

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

SEC West banners?

Going 8-8 but "winning a championship" is not the same as "competing"....but that was Stans' bread and butter. It was telling he was the only HC to vote to keep divisions back then.

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Yeah how stupid was it for Stans to vote in the best interest of MSU. So stupid.

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

The way the team plays...... wow.. Too bad we aren?t the ?96 Chicago Bulls I guess..
just curious what college teams style of play do you like ..

And It?s ok.. maybe men?s college hoops just isnt for you..

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Jesus you have such a complex. You get mad at people telling you the truth. It's not an entertaining product for a lot of MSU people. It's not arguable at this point. The attendance and general apathy speaks to it. People tell you why. Perceived effort. Lack of Offensive game plan. Too much me-ball not enough we-ball.

This is what people see and why they generally don't care to watch us. We don't win enough or pull enough upsets to make this entertaining for people. The only draw is that it's Men's Basketball and we "should care."

That's reality. Hate it all you want. Keep getting mad. It doesn't change it. I support because I love basketball and my school. Team is tough to be a fan of though. But your logic that people are bad fans if they don't support means your a bad fan if you don't go to every sporting event. Why aren't you at every Volleyball game? Every Tennis Match? Every Soccer Match?

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Yeah how stupid was it for Stans to vote in the best interest of MSU. So stupid.

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Stansbury voted in the best interest of Stansbury, not MSU. The only thing that winning the west accomplished was hanging a meaningless banner in the Hump and keeping the fans off of his ass. Winning the west made absolutely no difference in post season play.

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Stansbury voted in the best interest of Stansbury, not MSU. The only thing that winning the west accomplished was hanging a meaningless banner in the Hump and keeping the fans off of his ass. Winning the west made absolutely no difference in post season play.

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To play devil's advocate, the east was generally better than the west during Stansbury's tenure, which benefited us by getting to play west teams twice and east teams once every year.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Jesus you have such a complex. You get mad at people telling you the truth. It's not an entertaining product for a lot of MSU people. It's not arguable at this point. The attendance and general apathy speaks to it. People tell you why. Perceived effort. Lack of Offensive game plan. Too much me-ball not enough we-ball.

This is what people see and why they generally don't care to watch us. We don't win enough or pull enough upsets to make this entertaining for people. The only draw is that it's Men's Basketball and we "should care."

That's reality. Hate it all you want. Keep getting mad. It doesn't change it. I support because I love basketball and my school. Team is tough to be a fan of though. But your logic that people are bad fans if they don't support means your a bad fan if you don't go to every sporting event. Why aren't you at every Volleyball game? Every Tennis Match? Every Soccer Match?

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You are right, Girl's Soccer doesn't draw a lot of fans, and people are not terrible MSU fans if they don't attend. I don't have an interest in girl's soccer. It doesn't make me a bad MSU fan to admit that. Also, when the soccer team loses a games, or even doesn't win in a pretty way, this entire message board doesn't log on as quickly as possible to bitch about it. THAT's the difference. Our fans claim not to care, and then try to tear down the program at the first sign of adversity.

When comparing the last 2 seasons with the "Glory Days" the 2 eras are very comparable, but people continue to make BS excuses why they can't attend games. If you don't care, that's one thing. If that's the case don't attend and don't chime in on basketball threads. However, the constant amount of complaining on this board proves to me that people do care, but choose not to show up anyways. Big upsets are a hell of a lot easier to achieve when there is a intimidating home court advantage...

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Originally Posted by thf24

To play devil's advocate, the east was generally better than the west during Stansbury's tenure, which benefited us by getting to play west teams twice and east teams once every year.

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This is a fair argument. Although, if it were all about avoiding East teams, one would think that the entire SEC West would have voted the same, but they didn't.

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Stansbury voted in the best interest of Stansbury, not MSU. The only thing that winning the west accomplished was hanging a meaningless banner in the Hump and keeping the fans off of his ass. Winning the west made absolutely no difference in post season play.

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So we lost divisions, fired Stansbury and MSU basketball has been a better product ever since. Great call.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

So we lost divisions, fired Stansbury and MSU basketball has been a better product ever since. Great call.

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Doing away with divisions had literally nothing to do with Stans firing

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

This is a fair argument. Although, if it were all about avoiding East teams, one would think that the entire SEC West would have voted the same, but they didn't.

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I think the argument was that it made it harder for West teams to have good RPI's and didn't really accomplish anything since there wasn't a one game championship like in Football.

I think the other coaches had the right idea in that it probably does make scheduling easier for both east and west (east by giving them flexibility to play more good teams OOC, which they could do easily at the time with their geographic overlap/proximity to ACC teams; west by not saddling them with relatively weak RPI games in conference when it is harder for them to get good OOC matchups).

I think Stansbury actually had the right idea though as far as fans like banners and ADs shouldn't be in the habit of reducing opportunities to make fans happy.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Jesus you have such a complex. You get mad at people telling you the truth. It's not an entertaining product for a lot of MSU people. It's not arguable at this point. The attendance and general apathy speaks to it. People tell you why. Perceived effort. Lack of Offensive game plan. Too much me-ball not enough we-ball.

This is what people see and why they generally don't care to watch us. We don't win enough or pull enough upsets to make this entertaining for people. The only draw is that it's Men's Basketball and we "should care."

That's reality. Hate it all you want. Keep getting mad. It doesn't change it. I support because I love basketball and my school. Team is tough to be a fan of though. But your logic that people are bad fans if they don't support means your a bad fan if you don't go to every sporting event. Why aren't you at every Volleyball game? Every Tennis Match? Every Soccer Match?

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Possible your dumbest post yet.. and that’s saying a lot.