Here is what you guys need to understand about C34/rumors

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Seriously? I would do that crap in a heart beat. It's to better the university. And it's not using if you have an understanding up front that you aren't guaranteed anything and have no expectations.

Athletic departments don't change the color of the walls without getting input from people. That's how athletics at universities run. They have to get outside opinions somehow without going public. So how else do you want them to gauge fan interest? Send out a google form with a list of 5 coaches names to the Bulldog Club and whichever gets the highest votes is the coach we go after?

This is how you put out information. You do it through internal channels to gauge how different sections of the fan base will react. Some get information to the general fans. Some to boosters. Some to the higher ups. Some to the coaching community. Use internal sources to figure out a general consensus then make the best decision from the gathered information.

I would love to be someone that did that.

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Well, there's that and they're not going to give Coach info that they don't want out there if they're using him that way. Because that doesn't make sense.

Proof or you are absolutely full of complete and utter dogshit.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Boosters used me to get the OM NCAA investigation out there in the 2012. Nobody seemed to mind that happening

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Lmao. Literally. What does that have to do with “floating” coach names for opinion?

The strongest stance you’ve taken on anything MSU related was the Ray/Howland deal.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Seriously? I would do that crap in a heart beat. It's to better the university. And it's not using if you have an understanding up front that you aren't guaranteed anything and have no expectations.

Athletic departments don't change the color of the walls without getting input from people. That's how athletics at universities run. They have to get outside opinions somehow without going public. So how else do you want them to gauge fan interest? Send out a google form with a list of 5 coaches names to the Bulldog Club and whichever gets the highest votes is the coach we go after?

This is how you put out information. You do it through internal channels to gauge how different sections of the fan base will react. Some get information to the general fans. Some to boosters. Some to the higher ups. Some to the coaching community. Use internal sources to figure out a general consensus then make the best decision from the gathered information.

I would love to be someone that did that.

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Well, friend, we were cut from different cloth. I’m nobody’s imbecile, at least not knowingly.

Chizik?!

Did they mention Sexton reaching out earlier this week on Fuente?

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

Did they mention Sexton reaching out earlier this week on Fuente?

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I'd tell Sexton to go 17 himself after the Mullen and Freeze stuff

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

Did they mention Sexton reaching out earlier this week on Fuente?

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If true, just to get his guy a raise at VT. I'd love JF, but can't see it happening

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'd tell Sexton to go 17 himself after the Mullen and Freeze stuff

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We basically did that two years ago and look what we ended up with. Like him or not he controls most of the top prospects out there.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'd tell Sexton to go 17 himself after the Mullen and Freeze stuff

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I wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by turkish

Well, friend, we were cut from different cloth. I?m nobody?s imbecile, at least not knowingly.

Chizik?!

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Chizik is a logical choice for the administration to want feedback on. Recruited well, has SEC experience, won a national title. Not saying he's a great choice and neither are they, but the administration can get feedback from the fan base if they leak that name. And given what Moorhead was, which is zero SEC experience, Chizik is a starting point if the fan base wanted experience and SEC familiarity plus won a title.

It gives them a measure of what the fans really want. Are they ok with a retread, but one that's got extensive SEC experience and a national title? Solid name for them to float even if it's bull crap. Gauges what the fans are wanting. That's why there's nothing wrong with being someone that gives out info the athletic department WANTS out there. Who cares if it's false or if it's true?

It's all for the athletic department to gauge fan interest.

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

We basically did that two years ago and look what we ended up with. Like him or not he controls most of the top prospects out there.

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And this is why.

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

Did they mention Sexton reaching out earlier this week on Fuente?

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Sexton does that every year to get his guys raises and contract extensions. Its part of the business.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Chizik is a logical choice for the administration to want feedback on. Recruited well, has SEC experience, won a national title. Not saying he's a great choice and neither are they, but the administration can get feedback from the fan base if they leak that name. And given what Moorhead was, which is zero SEC experience, Chizik is a starting point if the fan base wanted experience and SEC familiarity plus won a title.

It gives them a measure of what the fans really want. Are they ok with a retread, but one that's got extensive SEC experience and a national title? Solid name for them to float even if it's bull crap. Gauges what the fans are wanting. That's why there's nothing wrong with being someone that gives out info the athletic department WANTS out there. Who cares if it's false or if it's true?

It's all for the athletic department to gauge fan interest.

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MedEd with the truth today. Nice work

I hope to God you are right..if so the folks on SPS who are railing on ED are going to have massive egg on the face

So in other words you're full of shit with the Chizik deal. Good to know. Got the clicks up though mission accomplished

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Originally Posted by Coach34

MedEd with the truth today. Nice work

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BS. You, meted, the smokescreen excuse.

Someone clowned you and you’re trying to put it off on the AD.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

So in other words you're full of shit with the Chizik deal. Good to know. Got the clicks up though mission accomplished

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I didn't say there was a Chizik deal. Stop with the fake news. I said we were 100% making a change. The rumored name to replace JoVester was Chizik early on as posted by I Seen It Dawg. I also said it could easily be a smokescreen for us to hire a Napier or Hud.

I'm not guaranteeing who we hire. I'm saying we are making a change. How hard is this to understand?

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Chizik is a logical choice for the administration to want feedback on. Recruited well, has SEC experience, won a national title. Not saying he's a great choice and neither are they, but the administration can get feedback from the fan base if they leak that name. And given what Moorhead was, which is zero SEC experience, Chizik is a starting point if the fan base wanted experience and SEC familiarity plus won a title.

It gives them a measure of what the fans really want. Are they ok with a retread, but one that's got extensive SEC experience and a national title? Solid name for them to float even if it's bull crap. Gauges what the fans are wanting. That's why there's nothing wrong with being someone that gives out info the athletic department WANTS out there. Who cares if it's false or if it's true?

It's all for the athletic department to gauge fan interest.

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How about the just go hire the best coach and stop worrying about what the fans want?

Does nobody here know how to interview coaches?

So floating Chizik is a smokescreen, or is it a way to gauge interest from fans?

You do know what smokescreen is right?

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Originally Posted by turkish

BS. You, meted, the smokescreen excuse.

Someone clowned you and you’re trying to put it off on the AD.

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This goes back to my earlier response. You are mad because you don't have knowledge and want answers. Do you really think Coach would throw out Gene Chizik as a name just for the hell of it?

What a shit name to just throw the hell out there to get clicks or stir the fan base up. Think man.

I'll add I don't know shit about this search or have any info. But I understand how this stuff works. You don't just look at one person. You look at multiple options. Start with multiple criteria and see who meets portions of it. Then you dwindle that down and put out feelers to everyone through internal channels to establish a baseline of what's realistic.

Once you've got a starting point or know who you can't get, you narrow it down more and ultimately arrive at a conclusion. But along the way you are going to gather information on multiple people as they should. Like it or not Chizik fits a lot of criteria. If I didn't put his name out there and said you could get a HC that was previously a HC in the SEC, recruited well, and won a national title, you might be a tad interested.

It's a baseline starting point to gather information. But you don't have information and you are mad this name is even being talked about because you don't like it. That's ok, just understand that there are things that go on above our pay grades in making these decisions.