Hud could be our Kirk Ferentz. Probably never win a conference championship but win a bunch of games and we wouldn’t have to worry about him checking out every year at Thanksgiving. I could see him staying for a long time.
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Hud could be our Kirk Ferentz. Probably never win a conference championship but win a bunch of games and we wouldn’t have to worry about him checking out every year at Thanksgiving. I could see him staying for a long time.
Looking at the numbers Grantham is paid 1.8 so I would imagine it would probably be more like 2.0-2.5 million to realistically get him. That would actually put him on par or higher than Dave Aranda's AAV and he's the highest paid DC in the country. Being able to say that he's the highest paid guy in football plus being able to see his son conveniently would probably make him think long and hard about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
At worst I think it would cause a bidding war with Florida which may cause them to overpay him or call his bluff and say "take it". And that would cause a trickle down effect for Florida which would cost them more money for assistants. And I'm all for sticking it to Florida. It also might cause Dan to lose his Joe Lee Dunn which I'm also all for. Good new for him is Manny Diaz might be available...again.
It's kind of like post buyout interest in a way.
IF it is Hud I wouldn't be surprised if he kept Shoop simply because they have worked together before so there is more known about how they work together and it would ease any transition because the defensive players would know the system on their side of the ball already.
Grantham isn't coming here to be a DC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Is he in the mix for HC? is Gene totally out of consideration? Hoping our Athletic Dept has an ounce of sense by not considering him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I don't expect either to ever be the HC at MSUQuote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
thank you sir, greatly appreciatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Maybe he thinks it would be great to coach at the school my son plays baseball at. Father love is strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Or betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Who do you expect to coach us in 2020?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
$3mil dollar questionQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Hold on to whatever hope you have I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Will his first name be joe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Yes last name GibbsQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Rep given!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Rep given!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
That narrows it down quite a bit. For 3 Million we could get Hud or Napier maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I don't get why people would be more excited about Napier than Hud. Hud turned ULL from a graveyard to a good sunbelt program. Napier looks good so far but even though ULL had regressed, they weren't the dumpster fire that Hud took over. Hud looked great at ULL after two and even after three seasons, probably better than Napier does because of Hud's previous head coaching experience and the fact that ULL was such a historically bad program when he took over. Granted Napier doesn't have the blemish that Hud has from his latter years at ULL, but he hasn't had much of an opportunity to gain any blemish. Lots of coaches start off hot because they walk into a good situation but then reveal their true selves after a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I don't have a problem with Napier and don't think Hud is head and shoulders a better choice, but unless somebody has some good insight into Napier beyond his record and stats at ULL, then it seems like Hud is the safer bet.
A lot of this also applies to Napier, and Napier has had more success at the D1 level. That's who I would hire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
- Runs the ball? check
- Saban tree? check
- Successful as D1 HC? check
- Relatively young? check
- Has recruited the area? check
Shoop brings more variety than Grantham. Grantham is strictly man and kept the safeties covering WR'S getting beat deep. He also played too much zero coverage with no safety help. I still remember Auburn and GA going over Mclaurin's head. Shoop addressed that instantly with better schemes. I prefer Shoop any day of the week over Grantham.
How has Napier had more success as a Dvision I level? Napier had mixed success as a OC early with Clemson before being let go. He had a good year as OC at ASU that got him the ULL job. He is going to finish up with somewhere around 18 wins in his first two years as Head Coach. That doesn't seem more successful than Hud taking over a historically bad program and winning 9 games a yea for his first four years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Covercorner2