Those Involved With MSU Football Need Take A Long Look In The Mirror

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09-28-2019, 10:17 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yeah and It was in Mullen's 7th year too and got blown out the same way by uga that year too. I'm not happy about tonight but dang Mullen got blown out plenty of times too. We're not the type program to lose the talent we lost from last year and not have to rebuild some. If the season goes completely off the rails I'll be ready for a change too. Let's see how the season plays out.

This^^

Apparently, to some guys, acknowledging that tonight does indeed suck balls, while also recognizing we've sucked those balls before, is paramount to heresy.

Seriously....we lost 3 first ****ing rounders on D....and we have 10 players suspended via tutor-gate.

All that being said, I'm still not happy with many of Joe's coaching decisions. All things can be true.
09-28-2019, 10:17 PM
I seen it dawg

**** mullen
09-28-2019, 10:19 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

I just looked in the mirror and I look ****ing fabulous

Yeah but you are getting old mf'er and all Cocksmen finally have to sit and wait for their HOF invite. I cant wait to give you your gold jacket.
09-28-2019, 10:20 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Dawgtini

<eye roll> after shrader came in the offense was serviceable given a true freshman QB. We scored more points tonight than we did in 3+ games vs a decent D last year. We were just shell shocked in the first true toad game for all those freshmens. Losing this game sucks. Losing this way sucks worse. But I did see a lot of positives out of the young guys. Just gonna have to take our lumps this year against good teams while we grow and get experience.

We've looked shell shocked in every road game under Moorhead, except in a half empty stadium for the Egg Bowl. Why?
09-28-2019, 10:21 PM
BeastMan

We are undisciplined, out of shape, poorly coached, and young in key spots. All of that reflects on JoMo. He just hasn’t learned how to be a HC in the mother 17ing SEC West yet. That said, got dammit Shrader is going to save him. That dude is a gamer, tough as nails, and can throw the got damn football. I hope JoMo can keep recruiting as a high level and figure his *****assness out because next year’s schedule is brutal. We trended down last year. This year looks like trending down. Next year’s schedule looks status quo. When tf are we going to trend back up. Shrader is the guy to trend back up if we can get our got damn shit together
09-28-2019, 10:23 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

We are undisciplined, out of shape, poorly coached, and young in key spots. All of that reflects on JoMo. He just hasn’t learned how to be a HC in the mother 17ing SEC West yet. That said, got dammit Shrader is going to save him. That dude is a gamer, tough as nails, and can throw the got damn football. I hope JoMo can keep recruiting as a high level and figure his *****assness out because next year’s schedule is brutal. We trended down last year. This year looks like trending down. Next year’s schedule looks status quo. When tf are we going to trend back up. Shrader is the guy to trend back up if we can get our got damn shit together

Great post.

Shrader is a baller & I think OL & WR is trending up, but everywhere else seems to be a mess.

I don't see near the same DL recruiting we've had in the past & we're headed towards a 3 star LB core by 2021.
09-28-2019, 10:23 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Cocksmen

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09-28-2019, 10:23 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Not if he keeps coddling players like Guidry. Kills your locker room dude as well as your offensive drives.

I do not understand why Guidry starts. He even almost dropped his TD pass. I'd start Payton over him.

And I'd like to see us move Cole to safety in place of Morgan and start Leo, Errol, and Washington when Gay isn't suspended.

I don't understand why coaches don't see what everyone else sees sometimes.
09-28-2019, 10:25 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Good post.

It's the lack of organization & inconsistency that has to stop.

We looked much better with Shrader at QB. He had us in position to score at least 2 more tds and a third was dropped by Spivey(got the fg after this one though). That's 17 more points. Defense we are playing so many young players and they're gonna be our if position and make dumb plays sometimes. We're getting a lot of people experience this year.
09-28-2019, 10:26 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

We looked much better with Shrader at QB. He had us in position to score at least 2 more tds and a third was dropped by Spivey(got the fg after this one though). That's 17 more points. Defense we are playing so many young players and they're gonna be our if position and make dumb plays sometimes. We're getting a lot of people experience this year.

I agree. I'm sorry for Stevens, but that experiment ship has sailed. I wish him the best, but it's time we start playing for the future.
09-28-2019, 10:27 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

We've looked shell shocked in every road game under Moorhead, except in a half empty stadium for the Egg Bowl. Why?

Because we've played almost all top 15 teams on the road the past two years?

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

We are undisciplined, out of shape, poorly coached, and young in key spots. All of that reflects on JoMo. He just hasn’t learned how to be a HC in the mother 17ing SEC West yet. That said, got dammit Shrader is going to save him. That dude is a gamer, tough as nails, and can throw the got damn football. I hope JoMo can keep recruiting as a high level and figure his *****assness out because next year’s schedule is brutal. We trended down last year. This year looks like trending down. Next year’s schedule looks status quo. When tf are we going to trend back up. Shrader is the guy to trend back up if we can get our got damn shit together

2021? Maybe? The JUCO's that we're bringing in along with Shrader are going to be the difference for Joe good or bad.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

This^^

Apparently, to some guys, acknowledging that tonight does indeed suck balls, while also recognizing we've sucked those balls before, is paramount to heresy.

Seriously....we lost 3 first ****ing rounders on D....and we have 10 players suspended via tutor-gate.

All that being said, I'm still not happy with many of Joe's coaching decisions. All things can be true.

Good post Beardo. You're one of the best on here.
09-28-2019, 10:29 PM
PGHBulldogBG

Neal Brown
Bill Clark
David Clawson
Matt Rhule

Please explain how this search was that conplicated and we looked at Pruitt Moorhead and Morris
09-28-2019, 10:29 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

This^^

Apparently, to some guys, acknowledging that tonight does indeed suck balls, while also recognizing we've sucked those balls before, is paramount to heresy.

Seriously....we lost 3 first ****ing rounders on D....and we have 10 players suspended via tutor-gate.

All that being said, I'm still not happy with many of Joe's coaching decisions. All things can be true.

Yep Beardo gets it!
09-28-2019, 10:30 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

We looked much better with Shrader at QB. He had us in position to score at least 2 more tds and a third was dropped by Spivey(got the fg after this one though). That's 17 more points. Defense we are playing so many young players and they're gonna be our if position and make dumb plays sometimes. We're getting a lot of people experience this year.

I do have to wonder how this game goes if we start Shrader instead of Stevens. Tommy looked completely lost the first two series. And yes, the fumbled KO compounded things. I don't think that confusion happens with Shrader.

We looked like a team trying to figure some thing out against a team that didn't have as many question marks. But I think we figured a few things out.
09-28-2019, 10:33 PM
ShotgunDawg

Something is just terribly off with this program.

I swear it feels like substitute teacher that doesn't want to step on any toes is coaching the team.
09-28-2019, 10:33 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I do have to wonder how this game goes if we start Shrader instead of Stevens. Tommy looked completely lost the first two series. And yes, the fumbled KO compounded things. I don't think that confusion happens with Shrader.

We looked like a team trying to figure some thing out against a team that didn't have as many question marks. But I think we figured a few things out.

Shrader Is a cool customer. He never looked rattled and he fought til the end. He's a baller. He's gotta start from here on. He makes us a dangerous offense. Let's roll with him!
09-28-2019, 10:36 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

This^^

Apparently, to some guys, acknowledging that tonight does indeed suck balls, while also recognizing we've sucked those balls before, is paramount to heresy.

Seriously....we lost 3 first ****ing rounders on D....and we have 10 players suspended via tutor-gate.

All that being said, I'm still not happy with many of Joe's coaching decisions. All things can be true.

And for all the good Mullen did getting us out of the Croom Error, the program is still not beyond have a 6-6 or even 5-7 season every 3-4 years or so. It's sucks but it's the damn truth. The reality is we are going to have them and can't get reactionary every time it happens if we ever want to build beyond that.
09-28-2019, 10:37 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Something is just terribly off with this program.

I swear it feels like substitute teacher that doesn't want to step on any toes is coaching the team.

How many wins did Joe's predecessor have on the road against top 25 ranked SEC foes? What seems "terribly off" about tonight?
09-28-2019, 10:41 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Great post.

Shrader is a baller & I think OL & WR is trending up, but everywhere else seems to be a mess.

I don't see near the same DL recruiting we've had in the past & we're headed towards a 3 star LB core by 2021.

We have a four star JUCO commit that's a DE and Cooley absolutely should be a 4 star prospect. Key is even more underrated as a three star. We played three four star DT's tonight and a former 4 star DE that are freshmen. So, I don't get that impression there.

LB- I can understand but Wheat is a good prospect and we're only going to play two LB's at a time for the most part anyway. That is a position we need to hit in 2021 and Calloway from Philadelphia could very well be a four star prospect at OLB and we probably could stand to land a JUCO LB or two. Brule is very athletic and talented too though.
09-28-2019, 10:42 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

How many wins did Joe's predecessor have on the road against top 25 ranked SEC foes? What seems "terribly off" about tonight?

You're making too large of a leap from what tonight looked like vs winning the game.

Winning or losing this game isn't what I'm talking about. Consistent lack of organization throughout Moorhead's tenure, consistent mistakes in special teams, penalties, & lack of discipline are what I'm talking about.

I expected to lose this game, but tonight wasn't competitive & would be better than that.

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