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08-21-2019, 12:00 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by thf24

Supposedly a lot of that time wasted was due to Nick being slow to process the calls and the pre-snap reads. To add to that, Kylin said in a 247 interview a few days ago that Nick was also having to help other players get lined up last year, which if taken at face value means we had a pretty major blind leading the blind situation going on pre-snap. If anything is better this year, it's going to be getting the call in and getting lined up with a QB who has 3+ years in the offense and everyone else being a year wiser.

Joe’s offense has always been very methodical before snapping the ball, trying to get into good looks. Even at Penn State. If it’s faster this season it’s because Joe has changed.
08-21-2019, 12:06 PM
StateDawg44

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Seems the whipping post is Fitz for all things wrong with our offense last year. I’m not buying it.

Bleeding the clock to zero was on JoMo. It didn’t happen during the Mullen era with the same personnel.

Are you saying we didn't have terrible play clock management under Mullen????
08-21-2019, 12:07 PM
thf24

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Joe’s offense has always been very methodical before snapping the ball, trying to get into good looks. Even at Penn State. If it’s faster this season it’s because Joe has changed.

It wasn't hurry up by any means at PSU, but they weren't routinely snapping the ball with less than 5 seconds on the clock like we were last year either. Just glancing at a few 2017 highlights, they were usually snapping the ball between 10-15 left.
08-21-2019, 12:08 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by thf24

It wasn't hurry up by any means at PSU, but they weren't routinely snapping the ball with less than 5 seconds on the clock like we were last year either. Just glancing at a few 2017 highlights, they were usually snapping the ball between 10-15 left.

Exactly. I expect us to move with some urgency this time around.
08-21-2019, 12:16 PM
RiverCityDawg

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Originally Posted by fishwater99

He didn't change a thing last year, why would he now?

That's just not true. He changed going into the Auburn game then again for the LSU game then again for Texas A&M. He didn't always change effectively and that's concerning, but it cannot he debated that he "didn't change a thing."
08-21-2019, 12:23 PM
RiverCityDawg

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I keep seeing us using two te sets and two rb sets. This is completely different that what joe has done his entire career. He's a 1 te 1 rb guy 99% of the time. Maybe he's adapting. We will see.

I noticed Farrod mention two TE sets in an interview and it was very interesting to me because of what you mention and Joe being almost exclusively 11 everywhere he's been. Haven't seen the 21 talk. I just hope he's doing something he knows. He tried to run stuff last year out of his wheelhouse and it just didn't work. We hired him to run his offense, it's on him to get it going.
08-21-2019, 12:27 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg

I noticed Farrod mention two TE sets in an interview and it was very interesting to me because of what you mention and Joe being almost exclusively 11 everywhere he's been. Haven't seen the 21 talk. I just hope he's doing something he knows. He tried to run stuff last year out of his wheelhouse and it just didn't work. We hired him to run his offense, it's on him to get it going.

In Joe's Sirius XM interview on the SEC channel he said he was digging up some plays he hasn't run in ten years with this offense for this season.
08-21-2019, 12:27 PM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by fishwater99

He didn't change a thing last year, why would he now?

I was at a practice .. and numerous times we had 2 TE in different formations.
08-21-2019, 12:30 PM
msstate7

If joe has ran 1 rb, 1 te sets his whole career and now goes 2-rb/2-te sets, that seems to indicate joe isn't as confident in our WRs as most here
08-21-2019, 12:30 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by fishwater99

He didn't change a thing last year, why would he now?

I don't agree with this. If he had tried to stick with the PSU offense he tried the first half of the season we would have gone 6-6 last year.

He realized he needed to run more "Mullen" with the personnel we had and he did. I'm still not happy about last year, but to say he doesn't change is just not true.
08-21-2019, 12:37 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Seems the whipping post is Fitz for all things wrong with our offense last year. I?m not buying it.

Bleeding the clock to zero was on JoMo. It didn?t happen during the Mullen era with the same personnel.

This. Fitz wasn't checking the play. Jomo was. But it's easy to blame fitz. Why not.???***
08-21-2019, 12:37 PM
thf24

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If joe has ran 1 rb, 1 te sets his whole career and now goes 2-rb/2-te sets, that seems to indicate joe isn't as confident in our WRs as most here

Why not that he has a better respect for SEC edge rushers this year, which was one of the biggest flaws in his offense last year he needed to correct?
08-21-2019, 12:38 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Uh, we weren't running ******* offense anymore.

They didn't look to the sideline at Penn State b/c McSorely knew what he was doing. I expect the same from Tommy.

They did a check w me at psu as well. Now maybe they snapped it sooner. Don't know.
08-21-2019, 12:39 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg

That's just not true. He changed going into the Auburn game then again for the LSU game then again for Texas A&M. He didn't always change effectively and that's concerning, but it cannot he debated that he "didn't change a thing."

Well he's never ever changed from his 11 personnel. So if he does that to any reasonable % that would be a big change
08-21-2019, 12:39 PM
basedog

You can't play hurry up on offense when your offense is inconsistent, plus why hurry up when you had a defense like we did last year. Fitz was a good college Qb, he had a serious ankle injury, but the fact remains he was an athlete playing Qb, times have changed now days. You need a smart guy who makes quick decisions, Joe may call the formation but he believes in his Qb to make the correct adjustments. Not sure Fitz was consist in this area, not sure how much studying the playbook he put into the process. just saying
08-21-2019, 12:39 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by thf24

Why not that he has a better respect for SEC edge rushers this year, which was one of the biggest flaws in his offense last year he needed to correct?

I really hope this is the reason. Still if our WRs are showing out every day in practice, seems odd to change sets to take one off the field
08-21-2019, 12:42 PM
thf24

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

They did a check w me at psu as well. Now maybe they snapped it sooner. Don't know.

Yes, they did. I think you know good and well it isn't Joe's intent to routinely run the clock all the way down like we did last year, check or not.
08-21-2019, 12:45 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

This. Fitz wasn't checking the play. Jomo was. But it's easy to blame fitz. Why not.???***

I'm not sure there has been a single player that has caught more shit than Fitz. Say what you want about that kid, but lets be clear - we don't beat AU without him last year. He averaged 6.0 ypc over his career at MSU. S-I-X yards a carry in over 581 carries. Y'all may think that is easily replaceable, I'll wait a bit.

Just saying, the kid never lost to the confederates when he was able to walk, had 99 total touchdowns and close to 10,000 total yards in his MSU career, where he went 22-14 as a starter in the SEC.

So if you are going to blame the kid for clock management (which he never had a problem with before last year) at least put some respect on his name.
08-21-2019, 12:47 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I'm not sure there has been a single player that has caught more shit than Fitz. Say what you want about that kid, but lets be clear - we don't beat AU without him last year. He averaged 6.0 ypc over his career at MSU. S-I-X yards a carry in over 581 carries. Y'all may think that is easily replaceable, I'll wait a bit.

Just saying, the kid never lost to the confederates when he was able to walk, had 99 total touchdowns and close to 10,000 total yards in his MSU career, where he went 22-15 as a starter in the SEC.

So if you are going to blame the kid for clock management (which he never had a problem with before last year) at least put some respect on his name.

Fitz gets trashed here daily. Totally unfair
08-21-2019, 12:51 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I really hope this is the reason. Still if our WRs are showing out every day in practice, seems odd to change sets to take one off the field

Having two really talented TEs in the same set adds an interesting wrinkle. Why not.

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