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07-27-2019, 10:46 AM
msstate7

Walterfootball draft preview has the Jennings, Moses, and Lewis as the top 3 outside lbs for the 2020 draft. Gay at #5

https://www.walterfootball.com/draft2020OLB.php

At inside, they list Moses and Jennings over Thompson

https://www.walterfootball.com/draft2020ILB.php
07-27-2019, 10:47 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

You would take someone else's players over our players no matter what the position.

I haven't forgotten how much you pumped up Ta'Amuu.

Tell us again how you feel about fitz...
07-27-2019, 10:48 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Tell us again how you feel about fitz...

I feel like he was better than Ta'Amuu.
07-27-2019, 10:49 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I feel like he was better than Ta'Amuu.

And you wouldn't have traded him for tua, I'm sure. Look our LBs are BAs... really good, but bama's are better. There's no shame in that
07-27-2019, 10:51 AM
MetEdDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Walterfootball draft preview has the Jennings, Moses, and Lewis as the top 3 outside lbs for the 2020 draft. Gay at #5

https://www.walterfootball.com/draft2020OLB.php

At inside, they list Moses and Jennings over Thompson

https://www.walterfootball.com/draft2020ILB.php

That's the same guy that had Dre'Mont Jones from Ohio State 4th at DT in his projections for 2019. Ahead of Simmons. Jones went 3rd round and we know where Simmons went.
07-27-2019, 10:53 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by msstate7

And you wouldn't have traded him for tua, I'm sure. Look our LBs are BAs... really good, but bama's are better. There's no shame in that

I would have traded Fitz for Tua.

I wouldn't trade our LB's for Bama's because it's a push at best and Errol was rated the second highest LB analytically by pro football focus behind only Devin White of LSU who was a first round pick himself. Walter Football is hardly accurate- especially at this point in the year.
07-27-2019, 10:54 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

That's the same guy that had Dre'Mont Jones from Ohio State 4th at DT in his projections for 2019. Ahead of Simmons. Jones went 3rd round and we know where Simmons went.

Pick any mock you want and tell me where they fall. Tell you what.... I'll say 2 of theirs go before one of ours for a permanent ban bet. Moses is a given.
07-27-2019, 11:02 AM
MetEdDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Pick any mock you want and tell me where they fall. Tell you what.... I'll say 2 of theirs go before one of ours for a permanent ban bet. Moses is a given.

I guess I don't understand why you want to ban so many people? You do this all the time. You just want the board by yourself? Can you not have a discussion and a little disagreement without taking it to a permanent ban?

I just don't understand why people feel the need to have a dick measuring contest like this on a board with a bunch of people they don't know or haven't met in person.

It's a message board man. You need to take a break.
07-27-2019, 11:03 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I guess I don't understand why you want to ban so many people? You do this all the time. You just want the board by yourself? Can you not have a discussion and a little disagreement without taking it to a permanent ban?

I just don't understand why people feel the need to have a dick measuring contest like this on a board with a bunch of people they don't know or haven't met in person.

It's a message board man. You need to take a break.

Well give me one
07-27-2019, 11:06 AM
msstate7

To be fair though, it's a sucker bet. Saban only takes prototype nfl LBs. Their measurables alone will get them drafted for the most part. College production would be your best bet to outperform them, but that's hardly a given.
07-27-2019, 11:11 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Moses is the best lb in the sec. I'll take Jennings, Moses, and Lewis over our guys all day, every day... and I like our guys, but come on mane

What makes Moses better than Errol? Jennings stays hurt along with Lewis.
07-27-2019, 11:16 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

What makes Moses better than Errol? Jennings stays hurt along with Lewis.

Longer and faster.

I think we somewhat hold our own 1-2 on a college field assuming gay progresses like I expect. It's after that that they really separate. They have 3-4 guys as good or better than Leo
07-27-2019, 11:21 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Longer and faster.

I think we somewhat hold our own 1-2 on a college field assuming gay progresses like I expect. It's after that that they really separate. They have 3-4 guys as good or better than Leo

I agree that Leo hasn't played the best in comparison. However, he's been available which the Bama players have not been
07-27-2019, 11:32 AM
Thick

Jury is still out on Leo. He’s not exactly the quickest and doesn’t attack ball carriers like he should (last year). We really need him to be outstanding this year. I’m assuming he will be extremely focused and physical. This is his pro career at stake.
07-27-2019, 11:38 AM
Coach34

We are going to be good on defense. No doubt about it. But we wont be as good at Safety and DT. Nor will we get close to the 39 sacks we amassed in 2018.
07-27-2019, 11:42 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

What makes Moses better than Errol? Jennings stays hurt along with Lewis.

And again- the analytics at pro football focus say that Moses wasn't better than Errol.

Too much looking at the logo on the jersey for some of these "experts" it appears.
07-27-2019, 11:44 AM
PMDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We are going to be good on defense. No doubt about it. But we wont be as good at Safety and DT. Nor will we get close to the 39 sacks we amassed in 2018.

This.

The defense will be good, but we wont be wreaking havoc up front like we were last year. And THAT is what made us the #1 defense. We mauled people at the point of attack all year. We lost our 3 biggest reasons we were able to do that. Again, we will be fine on D, but I just can't see how we dont take a step back.
07-27-2019, 11:52 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And again- the analytics at pro football focus say that Moses wasn't better than Errol.

Too much looking at the logo on the jersey for some of these "experts" it appears.

I love PFF for nfl, but I'm not so sure about their college ratings. PFF's top 50 on April 1, 2019, had sweat at #46 with aj brown and dk Metcalf top 20

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-pffs-...fe02f60a24060d

You agree with them?
07-27-2019, 12:00 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Pick any mock you want and tell me where they fall. Tell you what.... I'll say 2 of theirs go before one of ours for a permanent ban bet. Moses is a given.

Only because of the logo on their jersey. You, like many of our fans, need to realize that the jersey doesn?t make the player. So many just assume their players are better at every position. That?s not at all the case. I will never forget our o-line punishing their d-line in 2017. Punishing. As in physically dominating them in the second half.

NFL teams took Alabama and Clemson players before Simmons and we all know who the best is.
07-27-2019, 12:03 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Only because of the logo on their jersey. You, like many of our fans, need to realize that the jersey doesn?t make the player. So many just assume their players are better at every position. That?s not at all the case. I will never forget our o-line punishing their d-line in 2017. Punishing. As in physically dominating them in the second half.

NFL teams took Alabama and Clemson players before Simmons and we all know who the best is.

I always wondered why guys like josh Allen (Wyoming) and Carson wentz (ndsu) went top 10. Obviously it was the logo on their helmets.

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